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January Hunt Results

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From: NETTRAIN
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:06
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 18:07:03 PST
From: lb05gate%UCSBUXA.BITNET@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu (Rick Gates)
Subject: January Hunt Results

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*             Results of the January, 1993                *
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*                    INTERNET HUNT                        *
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This month we have winners in the individual and team
categories.

The individual winner is:

   John Berens
   University Librarian
   Olson Library
   Northern Michigan University
   Marquette, MI 49855

John scored a perfect 43 out of 43 possible points in an entry
dated: Sat, 09 Jan 93 21:29:08 EST

And the team winners are:

   The Panix.Hunt Team
   Panix Public Unix Access of New York
   New York, New York.

The Panix.Hunt Team scored 42 out of 43 points in an entry
dated: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:02:19 -0500 (EST)

Congratulations to all the winners!

Note to the Players
-------------------

Thanks to you all for giving us such a good demonstration of
how it's done.  For those of you requesting your individual
scores, they're done, but I'm leaving for Denver tonight.  I
will mail them to you on Wed night (1/27).

Statistics
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Total entries: 18

Total individual entries: 15

Total team entries: 3

My Comments about this Hunt
---------------------------
1.There were some tricky moments for me in this Hunt.  I set
myself up for some tough questions that I'm still tracking
down.  If anyone can provide more illumination on why Giovanni
De Poli's appears to have 5 email addresses, or the Toyota
question, fire me off a message and I'll summarize.

2.It's becoming more difficult to grade certain types of
responses.  Some players used a local Turbo gopher client to
connect to their home gopher server.  This made it tough to
retrace as I don't know where their home gopher is.  While I
could manage it (because I know the answers!), it may be
difficult for others to follow their searches.

What I'm thinking of doing next month is asking players to
double check that they are including the hostname and port for
their home gopher server so that others can follow in their
footsteps.

3. Since I've included all the answers for both classes of
winners, and I really want to include other good answers, the
size of this document is getting out of hand.  What I think
I'll do from now on, is just pick out a few answers for each
question that are good, or clever, or illuminate some little
known method for wrestling with the dreaded Net-Beast! :-)

Very Inventive Veronica
-----------------------
Veronica now has boolean searching capabilities.  Precedence is
left-to-right, with no nesting operators.  It is
case-independent.  When you access Veronica read the About file
for explanations.

When I tried it, a search on

   christmas

...yielded 90 entries, and a search on

   christmas and tree

...yielded 33 entries, and they looked right.

Thanks to D.G. Gilbert, and the folks at U.N. Reno for the
extra functionality.

Another Home for the Hunt
-------------------------
Many thanks to the folks at CICNet as they have provided me
with a Gopher for Hunt distribution.  Now, rather than having
to wait for mail and usnet messages to percolate to them,
players can grab the Hunt questions mere seconds after I make
them available.

The CICNet gopher is available on that long list of US
gophers.  If you prefer to point your users directly to it (my
preference, certainly), here are the details:

Name=The Internet Hunt
Type=1
Port=70
Path=1/hunt
Host=gopher.cic.net

Note: It looks like the Hunt is not accessible via Veronica yet.

So now, without further delay, here are:

The Hunt Answers
================================================================
1. (5) How does one say "Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year" in
Czech?

Individual Winner's Answer
--------------------------
   Answer: Prejeme Vam Vesele Vanoce a stastny Novy Rok.

   Search strategy:
   telnet panda.uiowa.edu
   4.  Online Information Services...
   12.  Veronica (search menu items in most of GopherSpace...
   2.  Search many (300) Internet gopher menus by SINGLE keyword <?>
   index word: holiday
   130.  holiday-greetings

Team Winner's Answer
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   >telnet scilibx.ucsc.edu \     or, of course, use a gopher client
   >login: gopher           /     directly
   >choice 9, The World
   >choice 1, Other Internet Gopher Servers
   >choice 8, Veronica search of much of GopherSpace
   >choice 2, Search ...

   Index word...: christmas

   choose article 140. Merry-Christmas.

   For those who are interested "Merry Christmas & Happy New Year"
   in Czech is the following:

           Prejeme Vam Vesele Vanoce a stastny Novy Rok

Other Answers
-------------
   What's interesting is I had searched veronica on all key
   words except merry....  I tried merry and got a hit... why
   didn't christmas work?  It does now!!!

   TurboGopher
   Home Gopher Server
   Other Gopher and Information Servers
   Search Gopherspace using veronica
   Search on keyword Merry
   produces a file called Merry Christmas which contains

   >From soc.roots Thu Dec 19 08:54:02 1991

   MERRY X'MAS (or equivalent) AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR - in many
   languages!

   Czech           Prejeme Vam Vesele Vanoce a stastny Novy Rok

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2. (6) Is the Toyota Motor Corporation connected to the Internet?

Individual Winner's Answer
--------------------------
   Answer: The Toyota Motor Corporation, Communication Technology
   Department, CIS Planning Division, has four Internet addresses:
   NET-T1: 161.93.0.0
   NET-T2: 161.94.0.0
   NET-T3: 161.95.0.0
   NET-T4: 161.96.0.0

   Search strategy:
   telnet nic.ddn.mil
   @: whois
   whois: toyota

Team Winner's Answer
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   ANSWER (reynolds):  Telnet to nic.ddn.mil
                       (panix) % whois toyota

   TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY DEPT,CIS
   PLANNING DIV. (NET-TOYOTA-COM1) TOYOTA-COM1 161.93.0.0

   TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY DEPT,CIS
   PLANNING DIV. (NET-TOYOTA-COM2) TOYOTA-COM2 161.94.0.0

   TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY DEPT,CIS
   PLANNING DIV. (NET-TOYOTA-COM3) TOYOTA-COM3 161.95.0.0

   TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY DEPT,CIS
   PLANNING DIV. (NET-TOYOTA-COM4) TOYOTA-COM4 161.96.0.0

   Toyota College of Technology
   (NET-TOYOTA-CTNET)   TOYOTA-CTNET     133.85.0.0

   Toyota Technological Institute (NET-TOYOTA-TI)
   TOYOTA-TI     133.21.0.0

   Toyota, Yasuo
   (YT11)               apaj-imo-o@ZAMA-EMH1.ARMY.MIL   (DSN)
   233-5821

   To single out one record, look it up with "!xxx", where xxx
   is the handle, shown in parenthesis following the name,
   which comes first.

Other Answers
-------------
   The strict answer is no (no IP connection). The users answer is: yes,
   you can send mail to them. I found no references in the usual databases
   (nic.ddn.mil etc) but there is a domain called toyota.co.jp belonging to
   the Toyota Motor Corporation. It can be found by telnetting to
   nnsc.nsf.net (Q10), logging in as wais and selecting the uumap.src
   database. Then you can search for toyota.
   (Short answer: use the wais source uumap.src to search for toyota ;-)

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   1. telnet archie.au
   2. login: netfind
   3. Seed database lookup
   4. Seed database search
   5. Keys (blank to exit): toyota

   The answer is

   fk.toyota.co.jp toyota motor corporation, japan
   toyota.co.jp toyota motor corporation, aichi, japan, japan
   tytlabs.co.jp toyota central research and development
   laboratories, inc, japan

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   Telnet 134.82.11.4 185 to Knowbot white pages and enter "Toyota."
   Results:

   Name: TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY DEPT,CIS
   PLANNING DIV.
   Phone:        161.93.0.0
   E-Mail:       TOYOTA-COM1
   Source:       whois@nic.ddn.mil
   Ident:        NET-TOYOTA-COM1
   Last updated: (unknown)

   [Rick: other entries omitted as they are listed above...]

   [etc....] Answer: Yep!

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   telnet to quake.think.com (WAIS), login as wais
   select "domain-organizations"
   search for "Toyota"

   This produces (if we ignore one unusable result) the following
   <D>omain/<O>rganization/<H>ost information:

     %D fk.toyota.co.jp
     %O toyota motor corporation, japan
     %H tmclab

     %D toyota.co.jp
     %O toyota motor corporation, aichi, japan, japan
     %H qe

     %D tytlabs.co.jp
     %O toyota central research and development laboratories, inc, japan
     %H milab elmlab iclab robotics

   [Rick:The question on Toyota was tricky as some leads indicated
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