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Article #404Teaching Discussion lists and Newsgroups was Re: Renewal Woes and Training
From: Diane K. Kovacs
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:00
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:00
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I include discussion lists and newsgroups instruction in my workshops whenever possible. Since I'm almost never in a position to see what the students do after the workshop I'm not sure whether they've learned to successfully work with the Listserv, Listproc or Majordomo software. In class we always have at least one person who sends their subscribe, confirm, set digest options to the list instead of the listserv. The difference between the list address and the list management software address is not an easy concept to convey. Increasingly I'm faced with training Web use only and in those cases I always try to show discussion list and newsgroup archives on Web sites...eg., http://www.dejanews.com and Eric Morgan's awesome http://www.lib.ncsu.edu/staff/morgan/listwebber.html and of course http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/. Some clients have specifically requested this type of instruction. I generally try to use a Listserv, Listproc, Majordomo and Newsreader example activity and we focus first on finding appropriate job related groups to join.. I've encountered two types of client who do not want discussion lists and newsgroups included in employee training: 1. business managers who feel that these are frivolous or recreational 2. library adminstrators who have the policy: we provide information not conversation. Di >In classes I have taught, I have been frustrated by students >who send messages to the "listserv" address and commands >to the discussion address -- a few always do no matter how I >emphasize that "listserv@"goes to a computer program >and that "groupname@" goes to a group of people. > >In a way it is reassuring that the concept may even elude some >internet trainers. In another way its disconcerting. > >IMO, discussion lists rank near the top of useful internet >tools. With the focus on the web these days, I wonder >how many trainers teach about discussion lists. What are >successful ways to ingrain in students the differences in the list >addresses? > > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Athena Hoeppner - Librarian >holcomba@mail.ucf.edu >http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~holcomba ________________________________________________________________________ Diane K. Kovacs | http://www.kovacs.com Kovacs Consulting - | fax: (330)225-0083 Specializing in Instructor-Led | phone: (330)273-5032 Web-Based Training http://www.kovacs.com/online.html ________________________________________________________________________ 7th Ed. Directory of Scholarly and Professional E-Conferences http://www.arl.org/scomm/edir/index.html _The Internet Trainer's Total Solution Guide_ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471288322/002-1693589-5325203 _Cybrarians Guide to Successful Internet Programs and Services_ http://www.neal-schuman.com (forthcoming?) _Health and Medicine on the Internet_ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1882208277/002-2591380-2197814
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