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Article #412Re: FW: Renewal Woes and Training
From: Lindsay Fraser
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 00:00
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 00:00
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Hi all, I also use the subscription department of a magazine versus the letter to the editor analogy. I find that the concept of sending commands to the list managment software is not the biggest problem. The biggest problem is making students understand that when they hit the "reply" button they are in all probability replying to the list and not to the individual who sent the message. I tell them a true story about a fellow who lived in the same housing co-op as I did..... Alan belonged to a list devoted to Irish folk music. A popular thread was all of the North Americans complaining that they couldn't buy the titles that they wanted in North America. A fellow from Dublin, who owned a music store, suggested that if it really was so difficult to get these titles they could email him their requirements, with their credit card number and he would ship the music out to them. Alan was thrilled and immediately wrote up a long list of titles and sent it and his credit card information - using the "reply" button. He said he received at least 50 emails from concerned group members and that a fellow from Chicago even called him up to explain what he had done. This always gives my students pause for thought. Lindsay At 06:41 PM 11/19/1998 -0500, you wrote: >This concept is hard to grasp...my favorite is (I think I got it from this >list)...you register for a course at the registrar's office and attend the >course in the classroom...would you go to the classroom to register for the >course???? Working in a university...that one works great!!!! > >Mary Stillwell wrote: > >> I found a great analogy for explaining the difference between the listserv >> address and the discussion address somewhere (I can't remember where)... >> >> Describe the listserv address as the Circulation Department of a newspaper, >> and the discussion address as the "Letter to the Editor" department of a >> newspaper. If you want something changed about your subscription you write >> (send a command) to the Circulation Dept (listserv); if you want your letter >> published (posted), you send it to the Editor (groupname). >> This one really works for me. Analogies rule! >> >> p.s. Athena--say hi to everyone at UCF for me! >> >> Mary Stillwell >> Gates Center for Technology Access >> Seattle, WA >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Athena Holcomb [mailto:holcomba@MAIL.UCF.EDU] >> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 1998 12:51 PM >> To: NETTRAIN@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU >> Subject: Renewal Woes and Training >> >> In classes I have taught, I have been frustrated by students >> who send messages to the "listserv" address and commands >> to the discussion address -- a few always do no matter how I >> emphasize that "listserv@"goes to a computer program >> and that "groupname@" goes to a group of people. >> >> In a way it is reassuring that the concept may even elude some >> internet trainers. In another way its disconcerting. >> >> IMO, discussion lists rank near the top of useful internet >> tools. With the focus on the web these days, I wonder >> how many trainers teach about discussion lists. What are >> successful ways to ingrain in students the differences in the list >> addresses? >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> Athena Hoeppner - Librarian >> holcomba@mail.ucf.edu >> http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~holcomba > > > >-- >Therese D. O'Neil, Instructor Indiana >University of Pennsylvania >toneil@grove.iup.edu >http://www.iup.edu/~toneil > Lindsay Fraser Managing Director The Internet Training Company http://www.titc.com lindsay@titc.com Ottawa, Canada
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10449f,6cf0bdd3b2fb6d4c X-Google-Attributes: gid10449f,public From: Lindsay Fraser <lindsay@TITC.COM> Subject: Re: FW: Renewal Woes and Training Date: 1998/11/20 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981120083903.00833e50@mail.axiomatikos.com> X-Deja-AN: 414145632 Sender: Internet/BITNET Network Trainers <NETTRAIN@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU> Approved: NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU * References: <B0000005291@titc.com> X-Sender: lindsay@mail.axiomatikos.com Comments: ******************************************************** Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Lindsay Fraser <lindsay@TITC.COM> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nettrain