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Article #1219Thermo question
From: Steve Luzader
Date: Sun, 06 Nov 1994 01:32
Date: Sun, 06 Nov 1994 01:32
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On Oct. 21, Doug Benning asked about a thermodynamics question in Hewitt. I sent a reply, but according to the log it didn't get through. So I'll try again. I hope this helps a little bit. The question and the explanation aren't stated very clearly. As you have already found, what's important is the RATIO of the high and low temperatures, not their difference. Raising the high temperature while keeping the low temperature the same would increase efficiency, and lowering the low temperature while keeping the high temperature the same would also increase efficiency. However, raising both temperatures may or may not increase efficiency. In Hewitt's problem, one engine had both the high and low temperatures raised by 100 K relative to the other one, so the temperature difference stayed at 200 K. In that case (which isn't a very good example), the efficiency went DOWN when the high temperature went up. However, had the high temperature been raised from 500 K to 600 K while keeping the low temperature constant at 300 K, the efficiency would have increased from 0.4 to 0.5, and I think that's the point he really wanted to get across in the problem. He just didn't do it very well. In a practical aside, it's interesting to note that the thermal efficiency of nuclear power plants is sometimes lower than that of coal- or oil-fired plants because the nuclear plants use lower temperature steam to drive the turbines than conventional plants. The exhaust temperature is about the same in each design, so the high temperature reservoir (the steam) is what sets the theoretical efficiency. Steve Luzader Frostburg State University Frostburg, MD
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