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Article #1820Re: Force Interactions
From: Rick Matthews
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 12:16
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1993 12:16
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J.F.McLaughlin Pittsburgh,PA (JXM39@PSUVM.BITNET) wrote: : In reply to the gentleman who asked for help regarding the forces between : charges, I would like to add my proverbial two cents worth. Electrical : forces present a particular challenge since they are either attractive or : repulsive, but I think that part of the groundwork which can lead to : understanding this complication is laid in mechanics. In particular, we : must stress the interactive aspect of Newton's third law- that is, forces : come in equal but opposite pairs. I take a bit of liberty to stress the : "active" and "reactive" aspects of these laws by leaning against a wall and : describing the pair of forces involved; if I weren't "actively" pushing : against that wall, it wouldn't react. As I stand on the floor, I point out : that it "reactively" flexes a bit due to my weight. I think that this : stress on force pairs, the only way forces _can_ be presented, is absolutely : essential, but note to students that it is perhaps a strange way to think : about things because it is necessary for the mathematics to "work out". : <<Joe>> I prefer to avoid the whole "action-reaction" nomenclature. If there are two 1 coulomb charges a meter a part, which force is the action, and which is the reaction? If instead we just say the force of A on B is equal in magnitude and opposite in direction to the force of B on A, we've said all there is to the third law, with no confusion. Give a few illustrations, as Joe suggested, but I would not talk about which is the action and which is the reaction. When fist collides with head, calling one force the action and the other the reaction is based on intent (psychology?), not physics. -- Rick Matthews matthews@wfunet.wfu.edu Wake Forest University 919-759-5340 (Voice) Winston-Salem, NC 27109-7507 919-759-6142 (FAX)
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 16cfd8,60a2a8474413cf9f X-Google-Attributes: gid16cfd8,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1993-09-30 06:19:43 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uunet!news2.uunet.ca!ukma!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!concert!quad.wfunet.wfu.edu!ac!matthews From: matthews@ac.wfu.edu (Rick Matthews) Newsgroups: bit.listserv.physhare Subject: Re: Force Interactions Date: 30 Sep 1993 12:16:04 GMT Organization: Wake Forest University Lines: 34 Message-ID: <28eim4$4ao@quad.wfunet.wfu.edu> References: <PHYSHARE%93092919414457@PSUVM.PSU.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: ac.wfunet.wfu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]