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Article #266Re: Work(?) by a Magnetic Force
From: Edwin Schweber
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 01:50
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 1995 01:50
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David Thiessen wrote: (initial paragraphs deleted) > > Chris, who seems to immediately see universal >consequences of my statement, raised his hand and asked, "If magnetic >forces can do no work on moving charges, how can your big horseshoe >magnet >pick up a steel plate like you showed us?" Of course, I had >never thought of such a question and could not immediately answer him >and I did my usual I'll have to think about that. > I find it a bit easier to think in terms of a current carrying wire in an external perpendicular magnetic field: but the underlying problem is still the same. If the B field does no work on the moving electrons why then will the wire accelerate. That the wire as a whole accelerates is due to the vector sum of the magnetic force on all the individual moving electrons. Therefore, that the wire accelerates presents no problem: there is no reason to assume that it should behave as a single electron does. However, since the wire accelerates, it does accelerate the moving electrons along with it. However, there are now additional forces between the atoms in the wire and the moving electrons. It is these internal forces which are causing the electrons to accelerate. The magnetic field is still doing no work on any one electron. Ed Schweber e-mail: EdSchweb@ix.netcom.com
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 16cfd8,92a1d89d1dae7ae4 X-Google-Attributes: gid16cfd8,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1995-03-25 17:50:58 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!nntp.gmd.de!stern.fokus.gmd.de!ceres.fokus.gmd.de!zib-berlin.de!news.rrz.uni-hamburg.de!unibwh.unibw-hamburg.de!Germany.EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!paladin.american.edu!auvm!IX.NETCOM.COM!EdSchweb Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Newsgroups: bit.listserv.physhare Message-ID: <199503260150.RAA23823@ix2.ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 17:50:58 -0800 Sender: Sharing resources for high school physics <PHYSHARE@PSUVM.PSU.EDU> From: Edwin Schweber <EdSchweb@IX.NETCOM.COM> Subject: Re: Work(?) by a Magnetic Force Lines: 33