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Article #503Re: How to calculate the Mass of Mars.
From: Phil Kline (Guest)
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 02:58
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 02:58
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Lowell, Your satellite project from the early days might well be a super on-line project for current physics teachers and their students. With the current prediction software and daily keplarian elements updates available also on-line from NASA, observations could be made from a good portion of the US, weather permitting, and reported through this listserv. Could be interesting. -Phil Kline, Chemistry/Physics Teacher Mohawk HS Sycamore, OH 44882 email: pkline@nike.heidelberg.edu On Tue, 28 Feb 1995, Lowell Herr wrote: > > > > > > Lowell > > > > > You are right about the value of G=6.67 x 10^-11, It was my typo. I did > > try to look up a couple of Physics books, but did not get any info. How > > accurate can the data be if such a technique(timing the moon(s) of > > Mars) to calculate the mass is used. So does that mean that the timing > > of the planets can be used to calculate the mass of the sun. Thanks for > > your reply.... > > Yes. The mass of the Sun can accurately be measure by knowing the orbital > time and mean radius. The mass of the Earth was accurately measured back > in the late '50's and early '60's using satellites. I forget the name of > the project but can get it as my brother worked on it. I was part of a > team that helped to determine orbits of the early satellites. It is much > too long to explain here but readers would sure get a kick out of how it > was done. > > Briefly, we would sit out at night looking up at the sky until we would > spot a satellite. Remember, there were very few objects moving around the > earth in 1958! Once we spotted a satellite we would look into a monicular > scope - all 16 spotters looking into scopes as we formed a line of > viewers, eight on each side of a large metal cross. When the satellite > came into view we would press on a buzzer that was connected to a tape > that recorded WWV time. If and when the satellite crossed behind the > large cross we would release the buzzer and then depress it again as the > satellite emerged from behind the cross. > > Knowing the latitude and longitude of our position and the time the > satellite crossed the position, plus the viewers position in the straight > line (difficult to explain without a diagram), the tape was sent to the > Smithsonian as I recall. Using triangulation with other sites, the orbit > of the satellite could be determined. That is the crux of what it was > like in the early days. > > It was a lot of fun. > > Lowell >
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 16cfd8,fe68f66a30d4fdb4,start X-Google-Attributes: gid16cfd8,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1995-03-04 06:31:46 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!paladin.american.edu!auvm!NIKE.HEIDELBERG.EDU!pkline Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Newsgroups: bit.listserv.physhare Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9503012116.E29089-0100000@nike> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 21:58:49 -0500 Sender: Sharing resources for high school physics <PHYSHARE@PSUVM.PSU.EDU> From: "Phil Kline (Guest)" <pkline@NIKE.HEIDELBERG.EDU> Subject: Re: How to calculate the Mass of Mars. In-Reply-To: <9503010343.AA16380@nike.heidelberg.edu> Lines: 56