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Article #932Re: Spin forces
From: Steve Hamersky
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 03:49
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 03:49
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Correct me if I've missed something here, but don't we really see electrons as wave-like with a distribution in the region of the orbital that corresponds to the particular energy level? What does centripetal or centrifugal force have to do with it? Steve > > Here's another "spin" on this question: I got into a lengthy discussion with > one of our chemistry teachers. According to him chemistry teachers have > "always" explained the size of the atom in terms of a "balance" between > centripetal and centrifugal forces. In particular, he was somehow using it > to explain the periodic behavior of atomic diameter. I tried to explain to > him that if there is anything in a balance it is the attraction of the > electron to the nucleus vs. the "natural" tendency for the electron to > continue in a straight line (at a tangent to the circle). He countered with > the example of pressure: the cumulative effect of many molecules bouncing > off of a container wall, and suggested that the electrons in an atom had to > be exerting an outward force on the invisible "wall" of the atom since the > nucleus was exerting an inward force on them. As you can see, the discussing > got very detailed, but the chem teacher went away still unconvinced that his > explanation was wrong. In fact, he suggested that he would not stop giving > this explanation to students until I could provide him with a better one. > Anyone interested in biting in to this one? > -- ============= Stephen Hamersky e-mail: hamersky@bluejay.creighton.edu Daniel J. Gross H.S. voice: (402) 734-2000 7700 So. 43rd St. The Lord prefers common people. Omaha, NE 68147 That is why he made so many of us.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 16cfd8,e7cc10913617f093 X-Google-Attributes: gid16cfd8,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1995-01-24 19:49:05 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!nntp.gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!paladin.american.edu!auvm!CREIGHTON.EDU!hamersky Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Newsgroups: bit.listserv.physhare Full-Name: Steve Hamersky Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85.2.1] Message-ID: <PHYSHARE%95012422471785@PSUVM.PSU.EDU> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 21:49:05 CST Sender: Sharing resources for high school physics <PHYSHARE@PSUVM.PSU.EDU> From: Steve Hamersky <hamersky@CREIGHTON.EDU> Subject: Re: Spin forces In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Bauer" at Jan 23, 95 10:24 pm Lines: 32