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From: Bronis Vidugiris
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 21:38
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 21:38
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In article <3hc5lq$l79@cwis.isu.edu>, Eric Rude <rudeeric@cwis.isu.edu> wrote: ) ) ) )Hello )Here are some questions from some high school students: )1. If there is no animal life present (intelligent or otherwise), when )the sun rises, is there color? Consider what happens when you take a picture with a color camera. If you are an Animist Copenhaganist, you might insist that the picture is in a superposition of states until an animal looks at it. More probably, you'll accept that cameras take pictures of color even without an animal present. If you are a Thermodynamic Copenhaganist, you'll insist that as soon as something irreversible (involving thermodynamic processes) happens that it's "real". (Of course, you'll probably waffle a bit about what irreversible really means :-) ). This is my own position. An MWI advocate (Multiple Worlds Interpretation) would insist that you become correlated with one particular picture when you observe it, but that all possible pictures (along with all possible versions of you looking at them) exist in at least some metaphysical sense. )2. Is it possible (theoretically or otherwise) to split a photon? If so, )what would it result in? It depends on what you mean by "split". There are some interesting experiments involving non-linear optics which "split" a higher energy photon into two lower energy ones. But all of them are complete photons. There is another sense of "splitting" used to describe the behavior of photons in between times when they are observed, also known by the technical term "superposition". I'd suggest reading QED by Feynman or "Quantum Mechanics and Experience" by Albert for more details on this. Feynman describes how photons act as if they took "all possible paths", and Albert talks a bit about superpositions. I'd recommend reading Albert's Scientific American article in addition to the book - he's more concrete and less abstract in the former which may help understand the later. The abstraction is likely to turn off readers who aren't familiar with at least one example of the abstract behaviors he talks about (IMO). Neither uses advanced math. However, any observed photon is a complete photon - there's no such thing as observing as *observing* half a photon. Another way of saying this is that photons appear to be fundamental particles (unlike atoms, or even protons or neutrons).
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