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2 total messages Started by Michael Feinberg Sat, 26 Nov 1994 12:40
Re: Student Question?
#1010
Author: Michael Feinberg
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 1994 12:40
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Does the force of the air downward from the birds' wings equal or exceed
the weight of the bird(s). Therefore the same situation prevails, [I think].

On Wed, 23 Nov 1994, Hal Repasky wrote:

> Dear Instructors,
>      My name is Steve, and I am a student of Mr. Repasky's advanced
> physics class at Seneca Valley Senoior High School.  During class, I
> posed this question to the class, and we would appreciate any responses
> that you may have:
>
>         If one has a half-ton pickup, and a box containing one ton of
> birds was placed in the bed of the truck, the load would be too heavy
> for the truck to move.  But what would happen if the box was beaten
> with a stick, causing at least half of the birds to start to fly inside
> the box, since the pickup can haul one half of a ton.  Would the truck
> be able too move?  Would the same result occur if the situation was
> identical, but took place in an airplane?
>
Re: Student Question?
#1015
Author: Mark Aitchison, rm814,ext6947
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 04:41
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>  If one has a half-ton pickup, and a box containing one ton of
> birds was placed in the bed of the truck, the load would be too heavy
> for the truck to move.  But what would happen if the box was beaten
> with a stick, causing at least half of the birds to start to fly inside
> the box, since the pickup can haul one half of a ton.  Would the truck
> be able too move?  Would the same result occur if the situation was
> identical, but took place in an airplane?
>
I presume the airplane is totally enclosed so whatever lift the birds get is
at the expense of downward air pressure, so the weight is the same.  But if
the truckload of birds is open to the outside some proportion (not 100% surely)
of that downward force of air will be against the ground rather than the truck, 
so I'd say more than half of the birds would have to fly.

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