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Started by Mervin Koehlinger
Wed, 10 May 1995 00:00
Re: Forces
Author: Mervin Koehlinger
Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 00:00
Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 00:00
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On Wed, 10 May 1995, Steve Luzader wrote: > In response to David Abineri's question about what would happen when a > momentary force is applied perpendicular to one end of a rod floating > freely in space, the correct answer is that a rigid rod will begin > translating (its center of mass will move in a straight line in the > direction of the force) _and_ it will begin rotating about its CM in a > direction determined by the force. If the rod is elastic, it will also > begin vibrating in a mode with displacement antinodes at the ends. > I once assigned a problem like this to a junior-level mechanics class. > Several of the students had come up with the correct answer (translation > of the CM plus rotation about the CM), but another very persuasive student > managed to convince everyone that the rod would only rotate. When I gave > everyone half credit for that answer, the persuasive student was sent to > my office by his classmates to find out why the answer was wrong. When > he asked about the question, I didn't say a word. Instead, I laid a pencil > on the floor and flicked one end of it with my finger. The pencil scooted > out the door, rotating around its CM. The student's eyes got as big as > saucers and he exclaimed "It moved!" I pointed out to him that physics is > supposed to be an _experimental_ science, and whenever a question is asked > that lends itself to an experimental check (even if its only qualitative), > they should do the experiment. > > Steve Luzader > sluzader@fre.fsu.umd.edu > There is one factor involved in the pencil experiment which does not come into play in the original situation: friction. Friction is responsible for the rotation, not the original force. Merv Koehlinger Parkway HS pw_koehlinge@noacsc.ohio.gov
Re: Forces
Author: Matt Tuley
Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 00:00
Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 00:00
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In article <Pine.3.89.9505101153.A538985378-0100000@NOACSC.OHIO.GOV> Mervin Koehlinger <PW_KOEHLINGE@NOACSC.OHIO.GOV> writes:
>Date: Wed, 10 May 1995 11:45:24 -0400
>From: Mervin Koehlinger <PW_KOEHLINGE@NOACSC.OHIO.GOV>
>Subject: Re: Forces
>>...Instead, I laid a pencil
>> on the floor and flicked one end of it with my finger. The pencil scooted
>> out the door, rotating around its CM. The student's eyes got as big as
>> saucers and he exclaimed "It moved!" I pointed out to him that physics is
>> supposed to be an _experimental_ science, and whenever a question is asked
>> that lends itself to an experimental check (even if its only qualitative),
>> they should do the experiment.
>>
>> Steve Luzader
>> sluzader@fre.fsu.umd.edu
>>
>There is one factor involved in the pencil experiment which does not come
>into play in the original situation: friction. Friction is responsible
>for the rotation, not the original force.
>Merv Koehlinger
>Parkway HS
>pw_koehlinge@noacsc.ohio.gov
I sure hope you're not saying that, had the floor been frictionless, the
pencil would not have rotated. Any time a force is applied to an object in a
direction other than right at the center of mass of that object it will cause
that object to rotate.
Matt Tuley tuley@csn.org
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