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3 total messages Started by John Mallinckrodt Thu, 11 May 1995 00:00
Re: Forces
#53
Author: John Mallinckrodt
Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 00:00
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Mervin Koehlinger writes:

>Now we're getting to the heart of the matter.  It's not individual forces
>that produce rotation, but couples!
>
>Forces produce translation; couples produce rotation.

Sorry, that does not compute.  A rod in "free space" will be set into
rotation by a SINGLE force as long as that force is not applied along
a line that passes through the rod's center of mass.

John Mallinckrodt
Cal Poly Pomona
ajmallinckro@csupomona.edu
Re: Forces
#55
Author: Matt Tuley
Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 00:00
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In article <9505112012.AA08777@csupomona.edu> John Mallinckrodt <ajmallinckro@CSUPOMONA.EDU> writes:

>Mervin Koehlinger writes:

>>Now we're getting to the heart of the matter.  It's not individual forces
>>that produce rotation, but couples!
>>
>>Forces produce translation; couples produce rotation.

>Sorry, that does not compute.  A rod in "free space" will be set into
>rotation by a SINGLE force as long as that force is not applied along
>a line that passes through the rod's center of mass.

>John Mallinckrodt

Right, that's it.

As to the football player: I believe the original example of the football 
player had this player "flying" through the air, not touching ground or 
players or anything. If he's not already rotating, he won't start rotating. 
To get him rotating, something has to hit his feet (or his head, or anything 
not along a line with his CM--and gravity or not, friction or not, he _will_ 
start rotating).

Hit 'em hard enough and eventually you'll be able to order it on a videotape 
some Sunday afternoon for only $19.95 so ACT NOW!     ;)



  Matt Tuley                                              tuley@csn.org

   Making my own little dent in the infinite Spandex of the universe...
Re: Forces
#90
Author: Guntbert Reiter
Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 00:00
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John Mallinckrodt <ajmallinckro@CSUPOMONA.EDU> wrote:

>Mervin Koehlinger writes:

>>Now we're getting to the heart of the matter.  It's not individual forces
>>that produce rotation, but couples!
>>
>>Forces produce translation; couples produce rotation.

I prefer: Forces cause acceleration (not necessarily movement)
while couples cause a torque (not a rotation).

>Sorry, that does not compute.  A rod in "free space" will be set into
>rotation by a SINGLE force as long as that force is not applied along
>a line that passes through the rod's center of mass.

John: It DOES compute. Imagine the impact resulted in pure
movement without rotation. More exactly spoken: the result would
be a linear acceleration of the CM. By Newton's laws (inertia...)
we know that from this acceleration the CM should "feel" (I just
can't remember the correct term) a corresponding force pointing
in the opposite direction. So these two forces build a couple and
produce a torque.

bye, bye
	Guntbert
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Guntbert Reiter : guntbert@borg-6.borg-graz.ac.at
HTL Weiz
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