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Article #2173Re: PSYCGRAD Digest - 16 Oct 1997 to 17 Oct 1997
From: Jason Seidel
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 00:00
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 00:00
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Hi, I'm Jason Seidel, interning at the SUNY, Buffalo Counseling Center, and a Psy.D. student from Univ. of Denver. I have a little something to add as this discussion about Brett's paper turns more "genetic." Brett Deacon wrote: "It is essential to separate out genetic effects from environmental effects when looking at this issue. Most good behavioral genetics studies attempt to statistically account for both genetic and environmental effects." The attempt to "statistically account" for the different variances that genetics and environment play in complex behaviors as well as in physiological processes has been hotly contested by a number of scientists, including geneticists themselves. For instance, see R.L. Lewontin's "Biology as Ideology" (HarperCollins). I suggest that before we get into talking about so-called "genetic effects" we are clear about the context in which these statistics are generated. A close look at the alcoholism research reveals a pattern of vociferous objections and retractions following the "latest breakthrough" that we "may" have found a locus for alcoholism that "may one day" lead to better tx. Furthermore, the idea that alcoholism or depression is "diasthetic" or whatever, is pretty much irrelevant considering that people without family histories have no difficulty at all either in "contracting" these "diseases" nor in being "cured" of them, all without medical interventions, and even (in the case of alcoholism) without having to abstain from the "stressors" for the rest of their lives. I'm glad you are interested in the topic of gender roles and how they affect how we try to cope with life's difficulties. I just want us psychologists not to try to cope with life's difficulties by trying to pump up and legitimize ourselves with scientistic constructs that sound concrete and unarguable, but which are neither. We want to simplify things because we get headaches writing our discussion sections, but the answer does not lie in falling back on the "diasthesis/stress" crutch that is becoming as banal these days as saying one does therapy from an "integrationist perspective." -Jason Seidel (jseidel@acsu.buffalo.edu)
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11317e,6130a53659227559,start X-Google-Attributes: gid11317e,public From: Jason Seidel <jseidel@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU> Subject: Re: PSYCGRAD Digest - 16 Oct 1997 to 17 Oct 1997 Date: 1997/10/20 Message-ID: <344B5E37.49A@acsu.buffalo.edu> X-Deja-AN: 282116849 Sender: Psychology Graduate Students Discussion Group List <PSYCGRAD@LISTSERV.UOTTAWA.CA> References: <md5:0548D9501DDD7C60DF7464114B58BB20> Comments: ******************************************************** Organization: UB Counseling Center Reply-To: jseidel@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: bit.listserv.psycgrad