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Article #13414Re: ISO9000 new version (fwd)
From: Daniel Ritsma
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 05:25
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 05:25
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>---------- Original message ---------- >Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 12:25:14 -0400 (EDT) >From:BRADSTRATTON@delphi.com >To: QUALITY@pucc.Princeton.EDU >Subject: Re: ISO9000 new version (fwd) > >Gray Southon asked about whether ISO9000 can straight jacket improvement. >JM Juran has stated the following shortcomings of ISO 9000: >No requirement for personal leadership by upper managers. >No requirement to train the hierarchy in managing for quality. >No requirement for quality goals in the business plan. >No call for a revolutionary rate of quality improvement. >No call for participation and empowerment of the workforce. >If you need something that defines a comprehensive quality system, >ISO 9000 is that thing. If you need continuous improvement, look >elsewhere (and the Baldrige Award guidelines is a good place to start). > >Brad Stratton/ASQC/Quality Progress magazine > >BRADSTRATTON@DELPHI.COM Does Juran support ISO despite these shortcomings? I received several of his brochures this week and I've extracted several quotes. "Again the ISO 9000 series of standards provide a good starting point for contractual relationships by adding a solid quality management structure." This isn't in complete agreement with "comprehensive quality system." His 'Strategy and Implementation Consulting Practice' "... help you develop a structured approach for integrating these best practices into your competitive strategies" and that "you can expect ... ISO 9000 certification." Despite the shortcomings he is helping companies achieve certification. Gilles Pilon, Manager Continuous Improvement, Asea Brown Boveri gpilon@fox.nstn.ns.ca Tel 613.747.5233 Fax 613.747.5876
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