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Re: Banning Nodes...

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From: Valdis Kletnieks
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1993 05:02
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On Fri, 17 Sep 1993 23:41:17 SAT Mohamed Hussein Abdel-Aal said:
>    What I have understood from the discussion going around is that some of the
>people at SAUPM00 have been very rude and unpolite. We the people at SAUPM00
>are not all like these few irresponsible students.  How many students from
>SAUPM00 have showed this rude behavior ? Two, three, or even ten! Is that
>enough to judge a whole node ??

Mohamed:

There have been *TWENTY* users from  your school locked from RELAY. This
is  one of  the  highest concentrations  of problem  users  I have  ever
encountered in  10 years on  Bitnet. Now, think  about that -  I've been
around here  for a *DECADE*  - and out of  3,000+ sites on  Bitnet, your
site is one of the biggest sources of problems I've seen.

Yes, it  is improper to  judge a node  by the actions  of a few.  On the
other hand, exactly how much trouble  would *YOU* put up with before you
decide to  take drastic action? It's  one thing when "Well,  I've seen 2
or 3 idiots from a school". It's  something else when you've had to give
warnings  to 75%  of the  people you  see from  a node.  If you  need an
analogy, consider  "a cold that causes  a stuffy nose that  you can live
with" as  contrasted with "a cancer  that needs to be  cut out entirely,
even if you have to take healthy tissue out too".

Into which category should I put SAUPM00?

/Valdis

P.S. Mohamed  - please  pass the  attached note along  to all  the other
RELAY users at your site - and think about the fact that *your own* node
administrator asked  me to  take the action.

--- included  mail follows ---
Date: 22 January 92, 14:41:41 UPM
From: OPRNAD%SAUPM00.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
To:  valdis@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu smtp at interbit
Subject: RELAY access of our node

   Dear Valdis:
        I've received your note dated 19 Jan 1992, regarding our node access
   to Relay. It have been noticed that there was a very heavy traffic on our
   system because of the misusing of that facility. For this reason, it have
   been decided by our management to stop Relay from the users.

Thank you for your concern and hope to contact you soon.
                                               Moawiya Taj
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