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Article #315Re: Tropes vs Topoi
From: Gary Hatch
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 17:58
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1993 17:58
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Just to add a brief note to Russ Hunt's point that tropes cannot help but be rhetorical since they are a deliberate departure from the "local norm of the text." This is the very point that Group Mu make in *The General Rhetoric*. They claim that there is a "degree zero" for what is recognized as the linguistic norm for a given discourse community. They are careful to point out that this degree zero is not frozen or universal: it is specific to a particular context. What would be a trope or deviation for one community would not necessarily be a trope for another. How then does metaphor differ from definition? How is "My love is a rose" different from "My love is a woman"? Grammatically they are the same. Each places an object within a class. The difference rhetorically is that according to what is recognized as a linguistic norm, the love interest of a human is not *really* a rose, so we look for a figurative or tropical meaning. Gary Hatch Brigham Young University English Department 3146 JKHB Provo, UT 84602 (801) 378-2402 gary_hatch@byu.edu
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