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Article #449SISTER E.J.
From: Robert Terrill
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 03:14
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 03:14
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I think I missed the beginning of the debate about the relative worth of teaching grammar in a writing class, but I thought I'd toss in my two cents just the same. I taught in the stultifying, hormone-soaked wasteland of high school English for five years, and during that time graded more student essays than most college-level instructors are likely to grade in the course of several careers. Besides learning that teaching high school is perhaps not quite the lowest pit in Dante's inferno (but close to it), I also learned some things about the way students write. I found that the question of the relative importance of grammar in a writing class was moot, in a sense, because grammar was tended to take care of itself. Those students who wrote well wrote well; they produced (mostly) sensible sentences, well-structured paragraphs, and essays whose form was both clear and concise. Those who wrote poorly wrote poorly. I never once saw a paper with insightful ideas expressed illiteratively, nor one in which dumb ideas were expressed eloquently; I suspect I never shall, and I expect that no one else has ever seen one either. It would seem, then, that if a person's ideas are scrambled they are scrambled, either on the page or in the head. One learns to write by writing, just as one learns to drive by driving and to swim by swimming. I noticed that by making students write a lot that some got better and some stayed the same, but that no one got worse; while I would guess that learning lists of grammatical rules or going on scavenger hunts for parts of speech embedded in sample sentences never made anyone a worse writer, it certainly couldn't in any way make anyone a better writer. Folks don't get better at swimming by driving. So, it would make sense to me that the ideal writing course would be one in which students write a lot, everyday. A truly gifted high school teacher once said to me that if you have time to read all the stuff your students write, it's clear you are not assigning enough writing. Sure, it's more fun to teach "literature-based" English courses and easier to teach grammar courses and *call* them writing courses--but they are not. They are academic jokes (just ask the students), and should be regarded as such by anyone who truly wishes to improve students' writing. Robert E. Terrill <RTERRILL@UAFSYSB>
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1498c9,9ec2de07fabe069f,start X-Google-Attributes: gid1498c9,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-03-25 19:14:29 PST Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!paladin.american.edu!auvm!UAFSYSB.BITNET!RTERRILL X-Acknowledge-To: <RTERRILL@UAFSYSB> Message-ID: <RHETORIC%92032522500598@VM.ECS.RPI.EDU> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.rhetoric Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1992 21:14:29 CST Sender: "Rhetoric, social movements, persuasion" <RHETORIC@RPIECS.BITNET> From: Robert Terrill <RTERRILL@UAFSYSB.BITNET> Subject: SISTER E.J.