Thread View: bit.listserv.rra-l
4 messages
4 total messages
Started by Patricia Rice
Thu, 06 May 1999 00:00
Re: promos and reissues
Author: Patricia Rice
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 00:00
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 00:00
45 lines
3244 bytes
3244 bytes
<<As to updating books which I assume you mean to re-writing them, I cannot think of any other genre that does that. My Anne McCaffrey's are all in print and never updated, nor are my Alistair MacLean, or Jack Higgins (although they do release his old ones intact but under his "real name").>> No, although some of us may update the writing, I meant updating the covers, since romance covers tend to follow trends. You've told me just what I wanted to know---other genres don't update the covers. When you say the Jack Higgins books are now issued under his "real name," how do they do that without the reader thinking they're new Jack Higgins books? I'm not complaining, I'm truly interested in how this is done because if a publisher decides to reissue one of my books, I have very little control of the result. I did insist that Zebra include reader letters warning people these were reissues, but people still bought them assuming they were new books. I couldn't force them to put the reader letter on the back and I couldn't force them to use the old covers (although heaven only knows, the old covers were so horrible I'd rather they died and went away). So I'm looking for any and all possible methods of warning readers should this happen again. I suppose had I stayed with Zebra they might have had a little more concern about reader opinion and sales, but as far as they were concerned, this was easy money and reader opinion meant nothing to them. Perhaps other genre authors don't change publishers as often as romance authors do? <<They believe the publisher deliberately deceived them by putting a new cover on the book, not noting anywhere on the cover that it is a reissue, and/or having confusing info on the copyright page. This could all be eliminated simply by putting something to the effect of: Romance Classic on the cover or put the awards it won on on the cover or even a quote from a review that refers to when it first came out on the cover or first page>> Since some readers completely ignored my warning on the first page that the Zebras were a reissue, it won't be possible to make them all happy this way. It's probably not possible to make everyone happy any way <G>. I like the "romance classic" idea, if we could convince the publishers of it. Is it possible that romance authors are so prolific that their fans can't remember all their titles, whereas everyone knows the titles of all the Terry Pratchett books, thus they would recognize a reissue even with a new cover? Patricia Rice VOLCANO, Fawcett, 8/99
Re: promos and reissues
Author: Lori Alpert
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 00:00
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 00:00
67 lines
3770 bytes
3770 bytes
On Thu, 6 May 1999 15:10:12 EDT, Patricia Rice <Price100@aol.com> wrote: >No, although some of us may update the writing, I meant updating the covers, >since romance covers tend to follow trends. You've told me just what I >wanted to know---other genres don't update the covers. They sure do. Not always, but you will frequently find a series reissued with new covers when the latest book comes out. But I guess that's one major difference. In SF and Mystery, the publishers are very willing to let readers know that the books are part of a series, whereas in Romance, they shy away from doing so when books are related. There are, of course, a lot more series in other genres. It's not that hard to figure out that Volume 1 is likely to be a reissue if you've already read Volume 10. <g> Also, if you've been reading a series, you aren't as likely to skip around (unless people start raving about it and you can't find the first book). Also, I think in SF the publishers are more likely to let the reader know on the cover that the book is a classic or has won a major award. So I guess there are more hints. There are also fewer books in other genres, and I suspect a higher percentage of them remain in print. You'll even find listings of books, more often than not in chronological order (check out Anne Perry in Mystery, for example, or Anne McCaffrey in SF). >Since some readers completely ignored my warning on the first page that the >Zebras were a reissue, it won't be possible to make them all happy this way. >It's probably not possible to make everyone happy any way <G>. Readers don't necessarily ignore the warning; they don't read it. Sometimes they run in and grab a book that looks new; other times they simply don't look at that part of the book. I rarely look at the first page because that's where they usually have a completely inappropriate teaser (it sometimes gives away something that doesn't happen until late in the book or promises something that is never delivered). However, I often look at the copyright page. <g> > I like the >"romance classic" idea, if we could convince the publishers of it. Is it >possible that romance authors are so prolific that their fans can't remember >all their titles, whereas everyone knows the titles of all the Terry >Pratchett books, thus they would recognize a reissue even with a new cover? The titles don't usually change (except between British and American versions, which does cause occasional confusion), and are very likely listed in the book. It makes a big difference. I think too many of the romance titles tend to run together after a while. It might be true for some of the SF titles, but I think SF authors have a bit more leeway in naming their books. And I think it's rare for a book to be published first in paperback and later in hardcover, unless it has become a classic, in which case the publisher is all too happy to let everyone know. <g> -- Lori Alpert lalpert@sff.net
Re: promos and reissues
Author: Karen Wheless
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 00:00
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 00:00
52 lines
3608 bytes
3608 bytes
>I'm not complaining, I'm truly interested in how this is done because if a
>publisher decides to reissue one of my books, I have very little control of
>the result. I did insist that Zebra include reader letters warning people
>these were reissues, but people still bought them assuming they were new
>books.
I think you did all you could. No matter what you do, some people are
going to be confused. What would help me the most is a listing of an
author's books. Almost every other genre does this, even if the author has
been published by another publisher. On the bookshelf by my computer, I
have books by Carol Higgins Clark (mystery), Vonda McIntyre (scifi), and
Iris Rainer Dart (general fiction) and every one has a listing of books
somewhere in the first few pages. I rarely see a romance that does the
same. The publishers are so obsessed with not "losing sales" by having
readers see the title of a book that is out of print that they end up
confusing and alienating readers. (And then they blame the authors!)
The copyright date along doesn't necessarily help - many times I will pick
up a non-romance book, and I'll know the book is old, but I won't know if
I've read it, where it falls in a series, or what other books the author
might have written (maybe I'm getting two books confused that have similar
titles). With a book listing, I can usually figure it out, though.
The thing that bothers me the most is when the publisher rewrites the back
blurb so completely that you can't tell it's the same book. I picked up a
reprint of an Anne Stuart book a few years ago. I knew it was a reprint,
but I haven't read every one of Stuart's books so I was pleased to fill in
her backlist. I just wanted to figure out from the blurb if I'd read the
book, although I couldn't remember every detail of all of her books. The
original back blurb reads:
"Residing in the attic of the Delacroix family mansion, Peter Jaffey
exerted a powerful fascination on his cousin's widow. Margaret Jaffery had
been warned not to trust Peter, that his sad smile hid a dangerous past.
But Margaret had to learn the truth for herself. Was it reckless fantasy
that dreamed she could have what was hopelessly out of reach?"
I don't have the reprint any more, but it read something like, "Margaret is
searching for a safe home for her 9 year old daughter. The devoted mother
meets the mysterious Peter and isn't sure he is the one to be a father to
her children." Add to this a perky cover with cute smiling kid (very out
of place for any Anne Stuart book).
Do these even sound like the same book? It certainly confused me.
Karen
Karen Wheless
kwheless@rockland.net
It's no good running a pig farm badly for thirty years
while saying, "Really, I was meant to be a ballet dancer."
By that time, pigs will be your style. Quentin Crisp
Re: promos and reissues
Author: Lynn Calvin
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 00:00
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 00:00
20 lines
1794 bytes
1794 bytes
At 03:10 PM 5/6/99 EDT, you wrote: ><<As to updating books which I assume you mean to re-writing them, I > >No, although some of us may update the writing, I meant updating the covers, >since romance covers tend to follow trends. You've told me just what I >wanted to know---other genres don't update the covers. On the contrary most genres update covers and I have lots of books in lots of genres that come out with new covers. For instance, the Lawrence Block comedy/mystery/adventure books about Evan Tanner, which just had a new one published after 25 years are being republished and have all new covers. (And I'll be buying new copies, but on purpose). The original 70s covers tended to have line drawings with color (sort of comics style) and scantily clad females. (I particularly remember the cover for Tanner's Twelve Swingers, which involved his rescue of an Eastern European gymnastics team. Lynn Calvin Aurora, IL lcalvin@interaccess.com lynncalvin@aol.com lyncalvin@aol.com (email on this address checked *very* rarely).
Thread Navigation
This is a paginated view of messages in the thread with full content displayed inline.
Messages are displayed in chronological order, with the original post highlighted in green.
Use pagination controls to navigate through all messages in large threads.
Back to All Threads