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Article #1635SKYWARN Nets, problems, answers
From: Chris Novy
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 00:00
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 00:00
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I think it's interesting to see the similarities and differences between various SKYWARN operation groups. Discussion and information sharing are the reasons I set up this newsgroup. We currently have over 150 direct subscribers and an unknown number of people reading this group via NetNews. I'm interested in hearing from people involved in SKYWARN groups that operate directly under emergency management, fire, or police agencies. I'd like to hear how these various groups interface with the NWS and ham radio and how they utilize their spotters. [THIS IS NOT A FLAME, JUST MY OPINIONS BASED ON PERSONAL EXPERIENCE] With respect to comments about nets being exclusive (like RACES), this can be necessary in large meteo areas (like Dallas or Chicago) where there already exists a large body of trained spotters. Further, anyone who has controlled a network before knows the frustration involved with talking to bad spotters (or people who are not spotters but want to get on the net and report what they are seeing because they think they're helping). After dealing with a few of these folks it's no wonder many networks only accept traffic from people previously-known to and directly participating with that network. On the other hand, some networks are just plain snooty. You have the ego tripping morons who run their nets like a bureaucracy. You also have nets run by people who don't have a clue and when you try to give a valid report (like the anti-cyclonic rotating wall cloud I was tracking last year east of Kansas City that went on to produce a tornado) you get back some kind of confused reply like "OK, you some clouds rotating.... OK, uh, um, did you know that the whole area is under a tornado warning for the next four hours?" You get the point. With respect to my previous comments about using codes, I was not trying to say that all messages should be coded but rather, codes and/or tactical communication can help out a lot --especially in large nets. Plain language is best in most circumstances but plain language should utilize standardized terminology. Reports must be objective --not subjective. To say "it really looks bad" or "I have high winds" or "I have severe lightning" doesn't provide much useful information --beyond what can already be inferred through radar and an assumed understanding that severe storms almost always produce gusty winds and a lot of lightning. The most common problem with SKYWARN nets is not communications-related but rather with poor training (which translates into poor reports). I can't tell you how many times I've heard poorly-trained spotters reporting all kinds of erroneous things. The most common problems are gross over-estimation of wind speeds, under-estimation of distances, and confusion/panic over ugly cloud features. Communication problems rate a close second, however. If you ever do a lot of traveling and listening to other people's nets it's not uncommon to hear spotters (especially hams) making very long-winded, needlessly over-detailed reports when just a few words would do. Part of the problem relates back to the training. Unless spotters are told what to report and what not to report they will tend to ramble. The other part is just plain communications training. That someone has a ham radio license only means they knew how to fill out an application form, sign their name, and memorize some questions/answers. This is not to say that most hams just memorize a test pool and that's the extent of their knowledge, rather just because someone is ham doesn't necessarily mean they know how to communicate properly. As always, comments are welcome. Part of my job as list owner is to keep the conversations lively and this post is bound to do that. ;-) ..Chris.. *====================================================================* Chris Hayes Novy - WA9V Internet: chris@siu.edu Southern Illinois Univ. chris@lib.siu.edu Systems Administration Phone: (618) 453-1683 (work) Morris Library (618) 457-6149 (home) Carbondale, IL 62901-6632 FAX: (618) 453-3440 *====================================================================*
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