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Re: Skywarn in an ignorant community

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From: Bill Gross
Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 00:00
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doswell@nssl.noaa.gov (Chuck Doswell) wrote:


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>BTW ... check out my revised Violent Tornado Probabilities page at:
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><http://www.wildstar.net/~doswell/tor_probs/vtornado_prob.html>
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>I hope it now deserves my imprimatur.
>=======================================================================
>From another Newsgroup:
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>In article
><4620469441039D49.8170B88F217A5EFC.1329A0E8763E7626@library-proxy.airnews.net>,
>bgross@airmail.DELETE.net (Bill Gross) wrote:
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>> FWIW, the 9-1-1 operators do forward reports from citizens to our EOC.
>> We do attempt to evaluate them.  This is often hard to do, but we will
>> check with the NWS and R.A.C.E.S. if we have a net operational.  Most
>> of the calls that have come from citizens of late have been reporting
>> "land spouts" instead of more violent events.
>
>If the local 911 operators DO forward reports to your EOC, is this an
>exception to widespread indifference or is it typical?  It seems to me
>that there should be some sort of policy that is in place nationwide ...
>if someone's report via 911 is treated with indifference or contempt, that
>could create really serious problems.
>
>Personally, I don't think 911 is an effective way to deal with tornadoes
>in populated areas .. the operators are going to be flooded with calls
>from well-intentioned citizens ... but in relatively sparsely populated
>areas, it might be an effective adjunct to other processes for obtaining
>reports (like spotters).
>
>FWIW ... a "land spout" IS a tornado!!!!!!!  How can you expect a citizen

[. . . ] fair enough about "Land spouts" (why do I always think of
Chevy Chase and the first SNL crew when I hear that term?).  Our
office works closely with the NWS Forecast office in the area.  They
don't get that concerned with "cold core tornados" and it rubs off one
us.  

As to 9-1-1 standards, they ain't.  Each 9-1-1 operation runs its own
shop.  There are two organizations involved with the business,
National Emergency Number Association (NENA) and APCO (don't know what
this later acronym stands for, but it is a public safety
communications organization dealing with a lot more than just 9-1-1).
They haven't yet really gotten to setting up national standards, there
is also some turf disputes between 9-1-1 under Fire Service, and 9-1-1
under Police.  Actually the folks who participate here represent a
more cohesive group than do 9-1-1 administrators. :)
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