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Re: Sirens Warnings

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From: gsellers
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 00:00
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Hello to the group,

Been reading the on-going discussions vs debates concerning the use of
Sirens for SVR WX situations and thot I would add my "nickles worth",
hi!

A few years ago when I worked as a paramedic crew chief in a large,
urban city {Charlotte, NC}, the city/county EMA used sirens for 2
primary reasons: [1] during the NC SVR WX Awareness Week Drill and [2]
during actual or drills of the nearby nuclear power plants..The city
would have the "fringe area" fire dept engines pull out on the stations
aprons and use their trucks sirens until told to stop by radio..The
county would have the nuclear power plant sirens sound and a few of the
distant volunteer VFD's station sirens would sound..They discovered
during "sidewalk" interviews with "Joe Citizen's" that: [1] the general
population had no idea why the sirens were being sounded and [2]
confused them, especially when using fire trucks!
[3] use of sirens in the inner city areas was useless..The sirens were
generally "drowned out" by the normal background noises and there were
not enuf of them to be effective..The end result is that the city/county
EMA stopped using the sirens for SVR WX! They still use them for power
plant emergencies and drills, since that is a federal requirement..I'm
not saying that they were wrong in using them, just that their own
"research" showed them how ineffective they were..

IMHO, use of sirens in any large, urban enviroment is pratically
useless. They may be of some use in the outlying suburbs and rural areas
of a county
were the population may be "educated" to the point of knowing that a
loud, sustained siren can mean [1] SVR WX Emergency, or [2] Nuclear
Power Plant Emergency..Most, if not all of the counties in the SKYWARN
Net coverage area that I am responsible for do not use sirens. They have
found them useless!

I don't know what the answer is at this point, but I think we all should
think about this situation and possibly come up with a working solution
together!



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73 de Greg, WB4HRR/CLT AREA SKYWARN EC
Visit the Charlotte Area SKYWARN Interactive Website!
@: http://users.vnet.net/voyager/skywarn.html
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<FONT COLOR="#990000">Hello to the group,</FONT><FONT COLOR="#990000"></FONT>

<P><FONT COLOR="#990000">Been reading the on-going discussions vs debates
concerning the use of Sirens for SVR WX situations and thot I would add
my "nickles worth", hi!</FONT><FONT COLOR="#990000"></FONT>

<P><FONT COLOR="#990000">A few years ago when I worked as a paramedic crew
chief in a large, urban city {Charlotte, NC}, the city/county EMA used
sirens for 2 primary reasons: [1] during the NC SVR WX Awareness Week Drill
and [2] during actual or drills of the nearby nuclear power plants..The
city would have the "fringe area" fire dept engines pull out on the stations
aprons and use their trucks sirens until told to stop by radio..The county
would have the nuclear power plant sirens sound and a few of the distant
volunteer VFD's station sirens would sound..They discovered during "sidewalk"
interviews with "Joe Citizen's" that: [1] the general population had no
idea why the sirens were being sounded and [2] confused them, especially
when using fire trucks!</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#990000">[3] use of sirens in the inner city areas was
useless..The sirens were generally "drowned out" by the normal background
noises and there were not enuf of them to be effective..The end result
is that the city/county EMA stopped using the sirens for SVR WX! They still
use them for power plant emergencies and drills, since that is a federal
requirement..I'm not saying that they were wrong in using them, just that
their own "research" showed them how ineffective they were..</FONT><FONT
 COLOR="#990000"></FONT>

<P><FONT COLOR="#990000">IMHO, use of sirens in any large, urban enviroment
is pratically useless. They may be of some use in the outlying suburbs
and rural areas of a county</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#990000">were the population may be "educated" to the
point of knowing that a loud, sustained siren can mean [1] SVR WX Emergency,
or [2] Nuclear Power Plant Emergency..Most, if not all of the counties
in the SKYWARN Net coverage area that I am responsible for do not use sirens.
They have found them useless!</FONT><FONT COLOR="#990000"></FONT>

<P><FONT COLOR="#990000">I don't know what the answer is at this point,
but I think we all should think about this situation and possibly come
up with a working solution together!</FONT>
<BR><FONT COLOR="#990000"></FONT>&nbsp;
<BR><FONT COLOR="#990000"></FONT>&nbsp;

<P>--
<BR>*****************************************************
<BR>73 de Greg, WB4HRR/CLT AREA SKYWARN EC
<BR>Visit the Charlotte Area SKYWARN Interactive Website!
<BR>@: <A
 HREF="http://users.vnet.net/voyager/skywarn.html">http://users.vnet.net/voyager
 /skywarn.html</A>
<BR>*****************************************************
<BR>&nbsp;</HTML>

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Subject: Re: Sirens Warnings
Date: 1998/07/06
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