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Article #1022Factoring skewed variables
From: Anthony Downing
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1993 12:34
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1993 12:34
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Steve Blinkhorn replied to my STAT-L posting about a simulation which showed how, from a single underlying latent trait, a set of dichotomous items could be derived which "cut" that continuum either a little above the mean or a little below the mean, and that factor analysis of these produced, by commonly accepted standards, two factors, not one. Steve's reply was: > But this is precisely what one would expect. The two sets of > variables are, if I read your method correctly, skewed in opposite > directions, so that within-set correlations will tend to be larger > than between-set correlations. Hence two (or more) factors. Of course that's right, so long as you have Steve's very well-informed expectations, and it's exactly in line with what he has recently been saying in postings to this discussion. But it's not, I think, what most factor analysis users would expect. The similarity of members of one cluster in being skewed one way, and of members of the other cluster in being skewed the other way, is not primarily a consequence of the number of underlying latent traits being tapped by the dichotomous items, but of the levels at which they tap it. What I found surprising was how small the deviations of the cutting point from the mean of the underlying latent trait could be (z = -0.3 and z = + 0.3) and yet one still got the result of two factors, not one. For most of the purposes for which people do factor analysis, in psychology at least, that was the "wrong" answer. In response to the point John Collins had made, no negative eigenvalues arose, and no communalities greater than 1, to signal that anyuthing funny was going on. In a simulation, one has a God's-eye-view, so I knew these dichotomous items were tapping the single underlying continuum a little above or below its mean, but what if the data had come from real life? Look at the frequency splits of most published questionnaires with dichotomous items, and you will find them far more skewed than the items in my simulation, yet find factor analysis usually being invoked to say what they are measuring! Tony Downing, Dept of Psychology, University of Newcastle upon Tyne.
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