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Article #1193Experimental Design for Non-Optimum Conditions
From: CAFT1::MRGATE::"A1::DON"
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1993 18:20
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1993 18:20
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From: NAME: DON SCHAFFNER
FUNC: FOOD SCIENCE
TEL: <DON AT A1 AT CAFT1>
To: inet"STAT-L@MCGILL1.BITNET"@mrgate
In our laboratory we develop mathematical models which
descibe the growth of bacteria as a function of environmental
conditions (i.e. pH, temperature, salt content, etc.). Up until
now we have only studied one variable (temperature) at a
time. We are now beginning to think about
experimental designs with two dependent variables.
From what I know about experimental design, most designs
are set up around what the experimenters think will be the
optimum conditions. In other words, if the organism grows
best at 37 degrees and a pH of 7, an experimental design
might look like this:
pH= 6 7 8
30 degrees 2 2 2
37 degrees 2 4 2
42 degrees 2 2 2
where the numbers 2 and 4 represent the number of
replicates.
This is fine if the 37 degrees, pH 7 condition is the most
interesting one!
Since we study microbes which grow in food and are either
pathogenic, or which spoil the food, the conditions which are
most interesting to us are the ones far away from the optimum,
where growth either doesn't occur, or occurs very slowly.
If we change the design so that the center of the design is
where growth barely occurs, then we have another problem.
Many of the conditions in this new design will show no
growth. It will cost a lot of time and money to produce data
that is "0" (no growth).
My question is this: Is there is special group of experimental
designs that can be used to study problems like the one outlined
above?
Since I'm not a statistician, and my knowledge of
experimental design is limited, I thought I'd pose it to the
list. (If I'm way off base, or if my question is a silly one,
please let me know too!)
If you would like to respond to me directly (see email addresses
below), I'll summarize and post to the list.
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Don Schaffner Schaffner@Daemon.Rutgers.Edu
Food Science Building, POB 231 Schaffner@Zodiac.Rutgers.Edu
Extension Specialist in Food Science Don@CAFT1.Rutgers.Edu
Rutgers - The State University of New Jersey (908) 932-9661
New Brunswick, NJ 08903 FAX (908) 932-6776
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