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Article #3491Re: Independent Obs
From: Allan Reese
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1992 10:04
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1992 10:04
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> Suppose you are handed a data set with a variable number of multiple obs > per subject. Short of eliminating data on a random basis so that each > ... the data > do not represent independent observations ... Multiple observations seem to me to be a field where the underlying ideas are often obscured by a desire to impose jargon. Having multiple observations on the same subjects does not necessarily make those observations not independent. There are two alternatives: the variate measured has some "true value" and "distribution" each time it is measured, and each observation does not affect the value or precision of subsequent ones --- in this case each subject acts as a "blocking factor", and you can define a "measurement error" for each subject are for between subjects; OR, the value having been measured, that value affects subsequent measurements --- the true "repeated measure" design. There is, I think, a third alternative which is the experimental scientist who "refines his technique", so that each measurement affects subsequent ones by providing background information. This may be susceptible to a formal treatment by a sort of binary-chop model, but in practice you have complications like the scientist who discards "bad" measurements (cf. Milliken oil-drop notebooks). In this example, if each observation within each person might (for practical or theoretical reasons) be treated as independent, might I ask (as an Aunt Sally) why you cannot use a weighting for each value of 1/(no of obs for that person) and fit a line to the full data? Does true "repeated measures", as defined above, necessarily imply a "memory" in the system?
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