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Article #3553Searching for Models
From: Michael H. Prager
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1992 17:53
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1992 17:53
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Dear Stat-L Colleagues: Our computer was down. I don't _think_ this was sent before. If it was, please excuse the duplication. The dangers of using stepwise regression to search for a model with high R-squared are well known. With small samples and noisy data, searching for the best-fitting model can overestimate the fit of a predictive model, among other problems. I am concerned about a similar practice, with a different slant, that appears occasionally in my field: searching for a model specification that gives a "good" distribution of residuals. The underlying idea is that anything other than i.i.d. normal errors suggests violation of the assumptions of a linear model. However, is it then true that one should strive for "good" residuals by any means? These linear models are used to remove certain effects (e.g., fishing gear type, area fished) from a presumed underlying "year" effect that estimates fish abundance. However, sample sizes are small (< 10 years) and the data are noisy. The methods of searching include using transformations on some or all variables and choosing subsets of variables that result in "good" residuals. My concern is that one could easily get a "good" error distribution by chance and that therefore this type of searching is suspect. However, I'm not sure I know what to suggest instead! I will appreciate comments on this and especially _citations_. Please reply to me, and I will summarize for the list if there is much interest. *====================================================* * Michael H. Prager * * U.S. National Marine Fisheries Service * * Southeast Fisheries Science Center * * 75 Virginia Beach Drive * * Miami, Florida 33149 USA * * Internet: mprager%pontus.span@umigw.miami.edu * * Telephone: 305-361-4218 (FTS 350-1218) * *====================================================*
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f5efb,e5856ed0bab03434,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf5efb,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-01-24 11:35:55 PST Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!paladin.american.edu!auvm!PONTUS.SPAN!MPRAGER X-ST-Vmsmail-To: RSMAS::"stat-l@vm1.mcgill.ca" Message-ID: <920124125346.2040177b@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.stat-l Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1992 12:53:46 EST Sender: "STATISTICAL CONSULTING" <STAT-L@MCGILL1.BITNET> From: "Michael H. Prager" <mprager@PONTUS.SPAN> Subject: Searching for Models X-To: stat-l@vm1.mcgill.ca