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From: Benoit Laplante
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1992 05:53
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1992 05:53
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Reading back the message I sent to the list a couple of hours ago, I realized that I left a whole paragraph out of it, making my argument almost impossible to understand. Here is a complete version: lines of the missing paragraph begin with "plus" signs. I apologize for the junk mail. _______________________________________________________________________ For the second time in less than a year, I am going through what is the closest thing to Hell on Earth that I know of: arguing over sample weighting with a French statistician :-) The last time, the matter was trivial -even though thoroughly disputed- and reference to classics like Kisch's _Survey sampling_ finally proved enough. In the meanwhile, I became almost crazy and had to be put back on track by a few people on the list. This time however, the matter is more tricky and I definitely could use some help. The data come from a two-stage sample design (households then individuals) with sampling proportions varying according to age in the second stage. The tricky thing is that the data are life histories that are to be used in event history analysis (a.k.a survival regression or failure time analysis). There is little litterature about the weighting of such samples. Conventional sampling (and weighting) theory and techniques have been developped for "ordinary" data and do not apply to longitudinal data in a straightforward manner. The only reference on the weighting of life histories collected through sampling procedures we know of is Hoem, Jan H., (1985) "Weighting, misclassification and other issues in the analysis of survey samples of life histories" in Heckman, J. J. and Singer, B, Eds. _Longitudinal analysis of labor market data_, Cambridge University Press. Hoem first considers the case where the sampling design is "non-informative", that is when the life histories are selected in a such a way that each one of them can be considered as independently selected of any other. In this case, he proves (using a mathematical demonstration that I can hardly follow, less criticize) that weighting is irrelevant. In cases where the sampling design is informative, that is when the selection of the individuals who will provide their life history is dependent on other individuals' life histories, weighting is justified because the probability of their selection is the outcome of a stochastic process (at least this is what I understand of the paper). + In our design, the selection of individuals is dependent upon the + size of the household they belong to. Obvioulsy, the size of one's + household has something to do with aspects of the life history of the + other people in the household (kinship and fertility patterns among other + things) that are at the center of our preoccupations (the study deals + with the demographic behavior of people living in an African city). + The selection of individuals is also dependent on age, an attribute + that also plays a role in the dynamics of household arrangements. + For those reasons, our design clearly appears informative to me with respect + to the kind of processes we want to study. I therefore suggested that weights should be used so that the sampling probability of all life histories be equal, using the weights that would be appropriate for ordinary data. This view is supported by other people around me who weighted similar samples when they used survival regression models even though none of them can pretend to have a full understanding of the probability and statistical problems involved. The other party -that I strongly suspect of having little understanding of sampling if any and of resenting the use of a software they are not used to- considers that there is too little litterature on the matter to use any form of weighting. Here come the questions. Does anyone have enough knowledge of this matter to either confirm or dismiss my understanding of Hoem's paper and my appreciation of our problem? Does anyone know of other references dealing with this problem? Did anyone have to get his way through a similar problem? As usual, any help will be greatly appreciated. Benoit Laplante INRS/Urbanisation Montreal, Quebec LAPLANTE@INRS-URB.UQUEBEC.CA LAPLANTE@UQUEBEC.BITNET
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