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Article #3640Degrees of freedom, building models
From: Ronan M Conroy
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1992 11:51
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1992 11:51
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Geoff Selig has hit the nail on the head. The
notion of building models that predict data is central in
statistics; and with the current vast increase in EDA packages,
we should be shifting from teaching about 'descriptive stats'
to data models - helping people to look for patterns in data.
The mean isn't just a descriptor, it's a predictor.
Geoff's description of degrees of freedom in terms of model
building moves df from the realm of superstition to the realm of
the understandable - sure, the concept if hard, but it's also
vital!
I have to admit a major influence, that of Judd and McClelland's
excellent book "Data Analysis - A Model Comparison Approach"
(Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1989 ISBN 0-15-516765-0). Their
account of degrees of freedom in terms of model-building parameters
(pp 86-7) is a breath of fresh air on the subject.
R M Conroy, B.Atchelor (my own degree of freedom...)
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Ronan Conroy
Lecturer in computing and Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland
biostatistics 123, St Stephen's Green, Dublin 2.
(353)-(1)-784422 [fax:780934]
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