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Article #745Re: What else? Heck, maybe Perl macros?
From: F. Scott Ophof
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1993 22:54
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1993 22:54
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On Mon, 2 Aug 1993 16:59:59 GMT Ian Collier said:
>In article <930725.220041-0400@MReXX-0.18>, "F. Scott Ophof"
><Ophof@CS.UWINDSOR.CA> wrote:
>I think Jack was referring to the distinct lack of support for text like
>this. "Powerinp" is ok but not brilliant, and there is no built-in support
>for reformatting a paragraph when you have messed it up by deleting or
>inserting something. However, given a few macros things can be greatly
>improved.
You're talking about CMS-XEDIT (and its *close* sisters), not Kedit,
I think. Can't remember for example how uni-XEDIT and THE are in
this respect.
>>By Jove! XEDIT on a Sinclair?!? ;-)
>No, not "jove". XEDIT. :-) But yes, I did.
GOTCHA! >:-)
>>The SI macro (at least its equiv. in the sisters) however combines
>>the good parts of POWERINP with availability of key-linked commands.
>Um, the thing about "Powerinp" is that you type away and it then breaks the
>text into words. SI is an enhanced version of "Input", not "Powerinp".
If I remember correctly, "SET WORDWRAP ON" and "SET MARGINS ..."
before going into SI does split on words. But this might depend on
ones version of CMS-XEDIT. I remember using both these SET options
3+ years ago to reformat "broken" HELP files ("broken" as in using a
justified right margin...).
POWERINP doesn't even exist in Kedit; it ain't necessary...
..[Your PF2 and SI]..
>It's similar, and that's probably why I never used SI (so I don't know
>what it does, exactly). However, it's slightly different as my method is
>modeless whereas SI can be viewed as a sort of mode that you have to enter
>by typing "SI" and exit by entering a null line.
Here is indeed where block mode terminals have problems. I found
that it was "too easy" to leave SI in CMS-XEDIT, and SI didn't
"follow the focus".
Kedit is clearly superior in this respect; one can stay in SI,
inputting anywhere in the file as long as one doesn't hit ENTER on
a blank line or the HOME key. F-, Ctrl-, & Alt-keys are available
during Kedit's version of SI. That is, unless our guru back then
fixed Kedit's SI to work the way it "should" to get the described
behaviour... WORDWRAP and MARGINS are respected.
Your PF2 seems to do what SI does in Kedit, and not unlike Alt-I
behaviour in THE.
Regards.
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