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Re: Subscribing

#438
From: Neil Rest
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 00:00
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>Would someone please be kind enough to let me know how to subscribe to this
>list. I've come upon it inadvertently -- sans instructions for signing up.
>
>           Many thanks,
>
>                   Gabrielle Loperfido

This list is a "listserv".  Many listserv lists have "-L" on the back of
their names.  generally, there are two e-mail addresses: one for
subscribing and such, and one for messages to the list.  Both addresses are
usually automatic responders, or "bots", which look for key words and react
to them.

Here's what you get back when you subscribe to XTROPY-L.  When you
subscribe, put two more lines in the body of the message, the words "help"
and "lists", like this:

sub XTROPY-L Gabrielle Loperfido
help
lists

You will get an instructional e-mail on how to use lisstservs, and what the
commads are, and you will get a list of all the listservs at
LISTSERV@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu.


Good luck,
Neil Rest

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Date:   Tue, 6 Feb 1996 09:08:12 -0500
From: "L-Soft list server at UBVM (1.8b)" <LISTSERV@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu>
Subject:       Command confirmation request (2CF5C8)
To: Neil Rest <neilrest@TEZCAT.COM>
X-LSV-ListID: XTROPY-L

Your command:

SUBSCRIBE XTROPY-L Neil Rest

has been received. You must now reply to this message (as explained below)
to complete your subscription. The purpose of this confirmation procedure
is to check that the address LISTSERV is about to add to the list for your
subscription is reachable. This is a typical procedure for high-volume
lists and all new subscribers are subjected to it - you are not being
singled out. Every effort has been made to make this verification as simple
and painless as possible. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

With most mail programs, you can confirm the command by simply using the
"reply" function, without including the original text, and typing "ok"
(without the quotes) as the text of your message. Just "ok" - do not retype
the command or anything else. If this does not work, you will receive an
error message. In this case, send "ok 2CF5C8" instead, using the same
procedure with which you sent the command you are now asked to confirm. In
other words, with most mail programs you will only need to type "ok", but
if you are unlucky you may have to retype the confirmation code as well.

Finally, your command will be automatically cancelled if you do not confirm
it within 48h. After that time, you must start over and resend the command
to get a new confirmation code. If necessary, wait until you know you will
be able to reply in time. If on the other hand you change your mind or
realize you made a mistake when typing the command, you do not need to do
anything - it will expire on its own in 48h and, if you discard this
message, there is no risk of confirming it by accident.


Date:   Thu, 8 Feb 1996 18:05:33 -0500
From: "L-Soft list server at UBVM (1.8b)" <LISTSERV@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>
Subject:       You are now subscribed to the XTROPY-L list
To: Neil Rest <neilrest@TEZCAT.COM>
Reply-To: XTROPY-L-Request@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU X-LSV-ListID: XTROPY-L

Thu, 8 Feb 1996 18:05:33

Your subscription to the XTROPY-L list (Extropians - discussion/development
of Extropian ideas) has been accepted.

Please save this message for future reference, especially if you are not
familiar with LISTSERV. This might look like a waste of disk space now, but
in 6 months you will be glad you saved this information when you realize
that you cannot remember what are the lists you are subscribed to, or what
is the command to leave the list to avoid filling up your mailbox while you
are on vacations. In fact, you should create a new mail folder for
subscription confirmation messages like this one, and for the "welcome
messages" from the list owners that you will occasionally receive after
subscribing to a new list.

To send a message to all the people currently subscribed to the list, just
send mail to XTROPY-L@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU. This is called "sending mail to
the list", because you send mail to a single address and LISTSERV makes
copies for all the people who have subscribed. This address
(XTROPY-L@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU) is also called the "list address". You must
never try to send any command to that address, as it would be distributed
to all the people who have subscribed. All commands must be sent to the
"LISTSERV address", LISTSERV@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (or LISTSERV@UBVM.BITNET).
It is very important to understand the difference between the two, but
fortunately it is not complicated. The LISTSERV address is like a FAX
number, and the list address is like a normal phone line. If you make your
FAX call someone's regular phone number by mistake, it will be an
unpleasant experience for him but you will probably be excused the first
time. If you do it regularly, however, he will probably get upset and send
you a nasty complaint. It is the same with mailing lists, with the
difference that you are calling hundreds or thousands of people at the same
time, so a lot more people get annoyed if you use the wrong number.

You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF XTROPY-L" command
to LISTSERV@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (or LISTSERV@UBVM.BITNET). You can also
tell LISTSERV how you want it to confirm the receipt of messages you send
to the list. If you do not trust the system, send a "SET XTROPY-L REPRO"
command and LISTSERV will send you a copy of your own messages, so that you
can see that the message was distributed and did not get damaged on the
way. After a while you may find that this is getting annoying, especially
if your mail program does not tell you that the message is from you when it
informs you that new mail has arrived from XTROPY-L. If you send a "SET
XTROPY-L ACK NOREPRO" command, LISTSERV will mail you a short
acknowledgement instead, which will look different in your mailbox
directory. With most mail programs you will know immediately that this is
an acknowledgement you can read later. Finally, you can turn off
acknowledgements completely with "SET XTROPY-L NOACK NOREPRO".

Please note that it is presently possible for other people to determine
that you are signed up to the list through the use of the "REVIEW" command,
which returns the e-mail address and name of all the subscribers. If you do
not want your name to be visible, just issue a "SET XTROPY-L CONCEAL"
command.

More information on LISTSERV commands can be found in the LISTSERV
reference card, which you can retrieve by sending an "INFO REFCARD" command
to LISTSERV@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (or LISTSERV@UBVM.BITNET).
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----    ----    ----
There comes a redeemer and he slowly too fades away,
        and there follows his wagon behind him that's loaded with clay.
And the seeds that were silent all burst into bloom and decay,
        and night comes so quiet, its close on the heels of the day.

Wake up to find out that you are the eyes of the world,
But the heart has its beaches, its home-land and thoughts of its own.
Wake now, discover that you are the song that the mornin' brings.
But the heart has its seasons, its evenin's and songs of its own.

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Date: 1996/02/15
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