Re: How do you spell coercion?

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From: Richard Marken
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:00

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[From Rick Marken (990429.1230)]

Me:

> But don't we get to find out what you meant when you said
>
> > Well stated. My only wish is that an equally enlightened
> > position had emerged during the discussion of coercion.
>
> In reply to Bill Powers (990427.1644 MDT) comment about the
> ant controlling many perceptions?

Bruce Gregory (990429.1436 EDT)--

> In the coercion "discussion," you and Bill _seemed_ to be
> committed to a position that RTP was coercive in nature. This
> point is trivially obvious to the extent that all schools are
> part of society and no society can afford to eschew the implied
> use of force, if only to protect some citizens from the coercive
> acts of other citizens. But this did not appear to be the point
> you were making. Rather than asserting the trivially obvious,
> you seemed to think you were making an important point about RTP.
> Those of us who differed with you were not impressed with either
> the importance or the accuracy of your remarks. When the vet
> picks up my dog to put her on his examining stand, he is acting
> coercively. Despite this, I am not tempted to call veterinary
> science a coercive practice.

Gee, that's not too subtle for me. Well, OK. I don't see how
it's related to ants controlling many perceptions. But I think I
get your point: the fact that RTP is coercive in nature is
trivially obvious so you and everyone else got all upset at Bill
and me because we seemed to think that this was important rather
than trivial.

Subtle, indeed. Especially since I don't recall anyone angrily
shouting at Bill and me saying "it's trivially obvious that
RTP is coercive in nature". I seem to recall people saying
things like "there is no coercion if the references of the
coercer and coercee are aligned" and "a control system cannot
be coerced". I guess I must have been hallucinating. What a
relief!

Best

Rick
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Life Learning Associates         e-mail: rmarken@earthlink.net
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