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Article #184Re: The Benefits of Religion
From: Marc S Abrams
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:00
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:00
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From [ Marc Abrams (990427.2300) ] I have been unable to respond to this until now. I will say no more about this thread. > >From [ Kenny Kitzke (990423.1000EDT) ] > These personal accusatory words reveal an angry heart. Good start, >I can't imagine what you would have written if my post was sent to you or was written about >you or with you in mind--which it was not. It was. I took it personnally, _very personally_. I was responding to my perception of your myopic, narrow, bigoted, view. >Your post reveals a controlled variable at high gain. You bet your sweet ass > I won't indulge you with a reply in kind. How thoughtful and kind. ( I am being sarcastic ) >Isaac had a good suggestion. I > hope you read it, agree and sent this insulting tirade before his post. As a matter of fact, I did send it before Isaac sent his post, but I would have sent it anyway I _responded_ to a huge _disturbance_. As I said in my opening sentence I really should not have responded to your rantings, but your _superficial_ concern masks a _deep_ seated dislike, and unwillingness to accept, any other thinking then your own, as being _valid_. Kind Ken, will save the world from itself. Hallelujah. God, am I thankful there are folks out there like you. >He also thought the posted quote by Steven that I responded to had no place on > CSGNet. IMHO, it was not credible, nor appropriate. That was the only point > I really wanted to make. So why not just make _that_ point. That other crap was uncalled for. To refresh your memory, I responded to this: > Steven's statement (But for good people to do evil things, that takes > religion.) is typical of Jewish anti-Christian rhetoric which Bruce Gregory, > for some reason, wanted for us on CSGNet to see. Have you personally done a study on "typical jewish anti-christian rhetoric"? What are some other kinds of "typical anti-cristian jewish rhetoric" your aware of? Let me give you another view on Bruce's post. It had to do with the dogmatic deeply held beliefs _people_ have. It had to do with the fact that PCT does _not_ distinguish between right and wrong. _People_ do, and more blood and violence ( read that as "harm" ) is shed in the name of religon than anything else, _THAT IS FOR ALL RELIGONS ( ie, People with deeply held dogmatic beliefs of _all_ persuasions, jews included ) Who the hell said _anything_ about christians? > We had a long discussion about beliefs on the CSGNet (including system level > beliefs, such as religion) and how they affect behavior. It was done with > respect for the most part. I think this is legitimate for the CSGNet. But, > discussing the merit (right or wrong) of an individual's system beliefs, > whether Christian, Jew, Atheist, Muslim, etc., or Democrat, Republican, > Conservative, Liberal, Libertarian, Freedom, Independent is best left to > other forums or private communications. Good, I agree, So why did you feel the need to introduce it? ( this is a rhetorical question. I am not interested in knowing. ) > So, shall it be for me regarding this awful thread. Isaac's request is fair. I could not, nor would I let a statement like that go by without a comment. I would do it again in a heart beat faced with similar nonsense. Marc
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