Re: Marketing Non-Coercion

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2 total messages Started by Tim Carey Fri, 07 May 1999 00:00

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Author: Tim Carey
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 00:00

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[From Tim Carey (990507.2145)]

From: Bill Powers <powers_w@FRONTIER.NET>

>This boy had _severe_ psychological problems at home and at school.


Given the actions of the father I'm not surprised.

>Most of the time this father was not applying direct force to the little
>boy. Yet I would maintain that there was an atmosphere of extreme coercion
>at all times. I say the little boy behaved as he did because he didn't dare
>to behave otherwise.
>
>How would you analyze that sort of relationship?


I would probably analyze it the same way as you. I don't think that the use
of force is an essential prerequisite for coercion to occur. I just think it
involves making someone do something against their will. If the little boy
didn't want his father watching over his shoulder and wanted to do things on
his own, then I would probably think of this as a coercive interaction.

Cheers,

Tim

Re: Marketing Non-Coercion

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Author: Marc S Abrams
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 00:00

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From [ Marc Abrams (990507.0901) ]

> [From Tim Carey (990507.2145)]

... . I don't think that the use
> of force is an essential prerequisite for coercion to occur. I just think
it
> involves making someone do something against their will.

Not necessarily. Coercion is the process of the coercer controlling ( or
trying to ) someone else's behavior. There is no regard for the coercee.
problem with this though is that other behaviors might be taking place
either simultaneously with, or intermittently with, coercion. Coercion is
but a single aspect of our overall behavior.

I think if you tried a self MOL you would see this. It gets very complex,
 that is the CV's we control and how they change) very quickly. I think
describing something ( or more accurately, somebody )as _being_ such and
such, rather then it being an _aspect_ of ones behavior could easily skew
your perceptions of what someone might be controlling;; for.

Marc.

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