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Article #116Re: Don't we need a standard way to represent language in Unicode? (fwd)
From: Brian Tatro
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 05:50
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 05:50
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Forwarded message: > Sender: handa@etlken.etl.go.jp (Kenichi Handa) > Subject: Re: Don't we need a standard way to represent language in Unicode? > > On Thu, 27 Jan 1994 23:41:08 -0800, > "Daniel R. Kegel" <dank@alumni.cco.caltech.edu> said: > > [ietf-charsets' charter is to decide how best to represent text on > > the Internet, now that ASCII is no longer enough for most Internet users. > > Most members of the list seem happy with Unicode. > > This is perhaps because most of them are not CJK users or > are not considering multilingual (NOT bilingual) > environment, or were too busy to respond (just like me :-). > > > Mr. Ohta is violently opposed, and has proposed extending > > Unicode with several bits *per character* to indicate > > language. When that was shot down, he proposed an > > extension of ISO2022 instead which completely ignores > > Unicode. I think midway between Mr. Ohta's two proposals > > might make more sense. -dan] > > To be exact, his latter proposal (I'm the coauther) is not > an extension of ISO2022, but putting reasonable restriction > on the use of ISO2022... hmm... `putting restriction' > itself might be regarded as an extension. > > > A quick and dirty way to address the problem would be to define a set of > > control codes as an extension of Unicode to indicate language, in much > > If such control codes are accepted universally, we'll have a > possibility to distinguish not only CJK, but also English, > French, German, ... in a text without contextual analysis of > human, and it may lead to a more powerful text processing. > > But, for the moment, I'm quite negative about the > possibility of such codes being accepted. European people > seem to have abondaned this kind of processing long ago in > return for easy displaying. > > > the same way as ISO2022 defines control codes to switch character sets. > > I'm now using ISO2022's switches for the alternative of such > control codes in Mule (MULtilingual Enhancement to GNU > Emacs) to distinguish CJK to supply different processing > method to each. If mule receive a mail of UNICODE, it can't > provide such convenient functionalitiy (e.g. looking up > dictionary). > > --- > Ken'ichi HANDA > handa@etl.go.jp -- ============================================================================ Brian Tatro Senior Editor Product Translation COMPUSERVE: 72154,531 Intergraph Corporation bptatro@trans2.b30.ingr.com
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 110cdc,fa6a9b4398e5c1ae X-Google-Attributes: gid110cdc,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-02-23 21:50:46 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!netnews.upenn.edu!msuinfo!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!swidir.switch.ch!news.univie.ac.at!aci.cvut.cz!rhino.cis.vutbr.cz!gateway From: bptatro@trans2.b30.ingr.com (Brian Tatro) Newsgroups: bit.software.international Subject: Re: Don't we need a standard way to represent language in Unicode? (fwd) Date: 24 Feb 1994 06:50:46 +0100 Organization: Technical University of Brno, Czech Republic Lines: 60 Sender: root@rhino.cis.vutbr.cz Approved: insoft-l-moderator@cis.vutbr.cz Message-ID: <199402240454.AA07466@trans2.b30.ingr.com>