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Re: Don't we need a standard way to represent language in Unicode? (fwd)

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From: Brian Tatro
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 05:50
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> Sender: handa@etlken.etl.go.jp (Kenichi Handa)
> Subject: Re: Don't we need a standard way to represent language in Unicode?
>
> On Thu, 27 Jan 1994 23:41:08 -0800,
> 	"Daniel R. Kegel" <dank@alumni.cco.caltech.edu> said:
> > [ietf-charsets' charter is to decide how best to represent text on
> >  the Internet, now that ASCII is no longer enough for most Internet users.
> >  Most members of the list seem happy with Unicode.
>
> This is perhaps because most of them are not CJK users or
> are not considering multilingual (NOT bilingual)
> environment, or were too busy to respond (just like me :-).
>
> >  Mr. Ohta is violently opposed, and has proposed extending
> > Unicode with several bits *per character* to indicate
> > language.  When that was shot down, he proposed an
> > extension of ISO2022 instead which completely ignores
> > Unicode.  I think midway between Mr. Ohta's two proposals
> > might make more sense.  -dan]
>
> To be exact, his latter proposal (I'm the coauther) is not
> an extension of ISO2022, but putting reasonable restriction
> on the use of ISO2022...  hmm... `putting restriction'
> itself might be regarded as an extension.
>
> > A quick and dirty way to address the problem would be to define a set of
> > control codes as an extension of Unicode to indicate language, in much
>
> If such control codes are accepted universally, we'll have a
> possibility to distinguish not only CJK, but also English,
> French, German, ... in a text without contextual analysis of
> human, and it may lead to a more powerful text processing.
>
> But, for the moment, I'm quite negative about the
> possibility of such codes being accepted.  European people
> seem to have abondaned this kind of processing long ago in
> return for easy displaying.
>
> > the same way as ISO2022 defines control codes to switch character sets.
>
> I'm now using ISO2022's switches for the alternative of such
> control codes in Mule (MULtilingual Enhancement to GNU
> Emacs) to distinguish CJK to supply different processing
> method to each.  If mule receive a mail of UNICODE, it can't
> provide such convenient functionalitiy (e.g. looking up
> dictionary).
>
> ---
> Ken'ichi HANDA
> handa@etl.go.jp


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Subject: Re: Don't we need a standard way to represent language in Unicode? (fwd)
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