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First, one more answer to the original question from Emmanuel Uren
(76107.405@CompuServe.COM):

     We are in the process of internationalizing a "calendar" product in
     Windows (3.1.).  We have incorporated Hebrew dates and have elected to
     have the formats of the long dates change with locale just as the
     Gregorian dates do.  In other words, in French we have 25 Ellul 5773,
     in Portuguese we have 25 de Ellul de 5773.  Now we wonder if that is
     correct or should the format remain the same regardless of locale.
     And what is that format, in that case?  Help appreciated.  Thanks.


Sender: Rachael Barlow (barlow@bostech.com)
        Boston Technology

There is a great deal written on this in the O'Reilly & Associates, Inc
book "Programmer's Supplement for Release 5 of the X Window System,
Version 11".  The basic idea is that yes, you should change date
formate with the locale.  Methods of implementation are listed in there.
I believe OSF also put out a document on Internationalization that
goes into date formatting.  I realize this a different windowing system
than what you are using but you might be able to learn alot from what's
already been discussed in X or MOTIF.


Then, Emmanuel Uren send another message, re-explaining his original
question.

Sender: Emmanuel Uren <76107.405@CompuServe.COM>
        Power Up Software

I appreciate the responses to my previous question on the format of long
Hebrew dates, but I see that I failed to make myself clear as to what we were
looking for.  It boils down to this; do French Jews, Portuguese Jews,
Spanish Jews use the same long date format when dealing with the Hebrew
calendar transliterated into French, Portuguese, Spanish and so on?  Or do
they use the same format as they do with the civil or Gregorian calendar?
Our calendar is gregorian and we can change the format for the gregorian
calendar via the International Control Panel and API's quite readily.
As an added feature we are providing the equivalent Hebrew date in addition
to computing Hebrew birthdays and yahrzeits (death anniversaries) and
presenting them on the gregorian/civil calendar.  (This allows people
to compute dates for bar mitzvahs, and Jewish holidays in terms of the
local civil calendar withoutconsulting a rabbi.)

So, in Roman languages, do we say "le 25 Elul 5773", "25 de Elul de 5773",
"25 de Elul de 5773", "25. Elul 5773" as one would say "le 25 Juillet
1993", "25 de Julho de 1993", "25 de Julio de 1993", "25. Juli 1993"?
Or is there a common format since the transliteration is from one common
source, Hebrew?

We can not use the Hebrew glyphs in Windows 3.1. localized for various
Western European locales since the ANSI character set (is it 1252?) doesn't
support those glyphs.  Furthermore, not all Jews (in the US at least) read
Hebrew and so we are dealing with transliteration from Hebrew to French,
Portuguese, Spanish, German and so on (not to mention American).