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Article #465Re: [TDR] About standardized (required) English usage
From: David B. Schnepper
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1993 16:39
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1993 16:39
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I agree with Patrick's stance on this. Without looking at the SMTP standard, I'ld wager a (small) sum that they don't specify the use of the *characters* "From: " to tag the sender of the message, but they do specify the byte sequence <46> <72> <6F> <6D> <3A> <20>, which if sent to a tty expecting ASCII causes "From: " to appear, but if the tty expects Unicode something totally different appears. The problem is that many user-interfaces present the keywords (key byte-sequences?) - expecting the keywords to convey their meaning simply by act of being displayed. More to brass tacks on the item of "both parties must agree to use non-French" - if the other party has agreed to receive messages in SMTP format I would take that to mean they have agreed to receive messages that contain byte-sequences that can represent English words if the byte-sequences are treated as characters encoded by ASCII. (Whew!) Another approach to take on the issue is to treat the SMTP keywords as the "envelope" of the message. I strongly doubt Canada requires I use French to address a piece of physical mail I send to a new corespondent in Quebec. (If they do, I may be subject to arrest next time I visit!) Furthermore, the US postal service attaches a postal cancellation mark containing English text - after I drop the letter into the letter-box. The SMTP information attached to an e-mail can be treated as the electronic equivilant of the envelope. I think your efforts will have the best payoff by disassociating your user interface from the keywords in SMTP. (eg: recognize "English: " but display "French: ". As Patrick stated, this reminds me also of the "should program keywords be translatable" issue. I am also reminded of the efforts of US fundamentalist Christian groups to ban programs which contained the byte sequence <x36> <x36> <x36> anywhere in their executable image. Dave -- David B. Schnepper Borland InterBase Internationalization Engineer InterBase Unit Internet: daves@borland.com 1800 Green Hills Road +1 408-439-2045 (voice) +1 408-439-7808 (FAX) Scotts Valley, CA 95067 USA
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 110cdc,574f21134d873648 X-Google-Attributes: gid110cdc,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1993-06-02 21:10:49 PST Newsgroups: bit.software.international Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!paladin.american.edu!news.univie.ac.at!blekul11!alijku11!aci.cvut.cs!cis.vutbr.cz!insoft-l@cis.vutbr.cz From: daves@borland.com (David B. Schnepper) Subject: Re: [TDR] About standardized (required) English usage Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 16:39:03 GMT Message-ID: <1993Jun2.163903.25149@cis.vutbr.cz> Approved: insoft-l-moderator@cis.vutbr.cz Sender: insoft-l@cis.vutbr.cz Reply-To: <insoft-l@cis.vutbr.cz> Originator: insoft-l@cis.vutbr.cz Organization: Technical University of Brno, Czech Republic Lines: 47