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Article #147Re: Calling all Activists to Melbourne Sept 11
From: Neville Lindsay
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:00
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 00:00
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"Jacques Chester" <jacques.chester@student.usyd.ee-dee-you.au> wrote in message news:8lous6$7t$1@spacebar.ucc.usyd.edu.au... > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Marxists > > Can someone please explain to me the differences > between marxism and communism? And no sniping, > please :) > Marxism provided the theory for communism. The practitioners took over from there and stuffed it. Marxism is therefore back in vogue along with a pack of other euphemisms to provide boltholes for those who made a life out of communism and like big Malcolm were caught with their pants down when communism collapsed as an undeniable failure and atrocity world wide. Marxism is of course thoroughly discredited as an economic theory - having been built by Marx and Engels on the basis of economic conditions of sole-proprietor capitalism of the 19th Century, it has no relevance to today's global economy. After Marx's death, Engels recognised the beginnings of this in a visit to Germany where he acknowledged that workers' position had progressed far more by negotiation in a decade than by 50 years of revolutionary struggle. This of course didn't stop the ideologues, and we still have rabbits acclaiming Marxism to this day. When you have spent a lifetime as a public Marxist-Leninist proponent, where else do you go when the failure and brutality of Leninism is exposed? This is particularly bad in Australian universities where these dinosaurs still exist in numbers. Western European counterparts got rid of this rubbish in the 1970s. Practical communism got its chance in Lenin's successful takeover of Russia in 1917 and ruthless demolition of opponents in the Party. Having got this power, he waited for the expected takeover in industrialised France and Germany so that the fraternal parties could pool the goodies. Their revolutions failed in 1919 and subsequently the industrialised countries were too smart to get caught, building prosperity out of capitalism and producing housing, services, amenities and welfare for their people. A devastated Lenin then invented state capitalism so that poor isolated Russia could industrialise and so provide the prescribed conditions and a viable working class to make Marx's theory work - the lazy bourgeoisie of Russia had not fulfilled their historical task of doing this and presenting goodies on a plate for the distributionist socialists to distribute. So we had Marxism-Leninism to make Marxism work in peasant-based countries, which is all the communists could get hold of. And to make all this go, they substituted for politics a doctrinaire monolithic party and a huge unfeeling bureaucracy which treated people as statistics and serfs. And so the communist countries began their long march on the backs of a groaning and put-upon people to fulfil mad-Marx's dream. About 100 million were killed in the process, and it finally began to collapse under its own contradictions, inefficiency and brutality 70 years later. Communism is dead, but the wolves have gone back to the sheep's clothing of 'pure' Marxism (with a human face - look for the teeth) or called themselves something fancy. Still unreconstructed, claiming to know how to do better next time. Would you buy a used totalitarian bureaucracy from these men? NL
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f7e6c,a0071f666bf123ec X-Google-Attributes: gidf7e6c,public X-Google-Thread: f5379,a0071f666bf123ec X-Google-Attributes: gidf5379,public X-Google-Thread: 1083c4,a0071f666bf123ec X-Google-Attributes: gid1083c4,public X-Google-Thread: 10df0c,a0071f666bf123ec X-Google-Attributes: gid10df0c,public From: "Neville Lindsay" <nevlin@bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: Calling all Activists to Melbourne Sept 11 Date: 2000/07/28 Message-ID: <UZfg5.14603$4p3.114275@news-server.bigpond.net.au> X-Deja-AN: 651805807 References: <397F916F.A68FAE7F@crosswinds.net> <8lous6$7t$1@spacebar.ucc.usyd.edu.au> X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Complaints-To: news@bigpond.net.au X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 964791284 24.192.88.152 (Fri, 28 Jul 2000 23:34:44 EST) Organization: BigPond Internet Services (http://www.bigpond.net.au) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 23:34:44 EST Newsgroups: bne.general,aus.politics,aus.general,soc.culture.australian