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"mr_organic" <mr_organic@yourmamashouse.com> wrote in message
news:44da0979$1@newsgroups.borland.com...

> Is there any movement on getting the newest version of Indy
> ready for use in C++Builder?

Not lately.

> is the holdup more related to a lack of manpower?

Yes.  As I've said numerous times before, I am the only person who works on
C++ support, but I do not have a lot of time lately to work on it.  Besides
that, I did already write some installation files for myself that worked,
but that was before I then started making a lot of changes to my local copy
of Indy 10 for other things.  I do not have a compilable version of Indy 10
right now to test with.  And I have not gotten around to downloading the
official snapshot to test with.


Gambit

"Remy Lebeau \(TeamB\)" <no.spam@no.spam.com> wrote in
news:44da0d42$1@newsgroups.borland.com: 

> 
><SNIP>
> 
> Yes.  As I've said numerous times before, I am the only person who
> works on C++ support, but I do not have a lot of time lately to work
> on it.  Besides that, I did already write some installation files for
> myself that worked, but that was before I then started making a lot of
> changes to my local copy of Indy 10 for other things.  I do not have a
> compilable version of Indy 10 right now to test with.  And I have not
> gotten around to downloading the official snapshot to test with.
> 
> 
> Gambit
> 

Since Borland (or, now, DevCo) is pretty much "officially" using Indy as 
their networking component suite, is it possible to request that they 
lend a hand on C++Builder support?

mr_organic

Hi Remy,

How many people work on the Indy project overall, and is there a reason why 
you are the only one that does the C++ support?

Paul

"Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam@no.spam.com> wrote in message 
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> Yes.  As I've said numerous times before, I am the only person who works 
> on
> C++ support, but I do not have a lot of time lately to work on it. 
> Besides

"Paul at NCF" <not plmacca@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:44dad820$1@newsgroups.borland.com...

> How many people work on the Indy project overall

Indy is open source, so there is no way to track the unregistered
contributors.  But there are several dozen people currently registered as
actually being Indy team members, but only a handful of them are (noticably)
active in development and/or administration.

> is there a reason why you are the only one that does the C++ support?

Because everyone else is either Delphi or C#.  In fact, being C++ is
primarily what got me onto the Indy team in the first place.  If there are
other C++ members on the team, they don't step forward very much.


Gambit

Have just got back into Borland's NGs.  This Indy 10 problem in BCB (6Pro in 
my case) is still with us after more than a year.  I note from the replies 
in this thread and those in the 21aug by Vlad that Remy is the only person 
working in this area.  This prompts me to ask whether, or not, any of us can 
help, and if so, how?

My experience is systems and programming, including comms, in different 
flavours over some 40 years.  I am retired and really quite committed 
writing web support software using my C++ SDK, but if there were a small 
part in a coordinated plan I could do, I would try to find the time.  Of 
course there are real problems in organising a division of support for an 
integrated project, but _if_ we _could_ advance Indy 10 to a working 
release, then a lot of people would be really pleased - me for one!

Best regards, and thanks to Remy for all the support he gives.

Peter Evans.


"Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam@no.spam.com> wrote in message 
news:44dae743$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
> "Paul at NCF" <not plmacca@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:44dad820$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
>> How many people work on the Indy project overall
>
> Indy is open source, so there is no way to track the unregistered
> contributors.  But there are several dozen people currently registered as
> actually being Indy team members, but only a handful of them are 
> (noticably)
> active in development and/or administration.
>
>> is there a reason why you are the only one that does the C++ support?
>
> Because everyone else is either Delphi or C#.  In fact, being C++ is
> primarily what got me onto the Indy team in the first place.  If there are
> other C++ members on the team, they don't step forward very much.
>
>
> Gambit
>
> 

"Peter Evans" <peter-evans@pelcaro.com> wrote in message
news:45084d23@newsgroups.borland.com...

> Have just got back into Borland's NGs.  This Indy 10 problem in BCB
> (6Pro in my case) is still with us after more than a year.  I note from
the
> replies in this thread and those in the 21aug by Vlad that Remy is the
> only person working in this area.  This prompts me to ask whether, or not,
> any of us can help, and if so, how?

Indy is open source.  Anyone can contribute to it.  The two biggest problem
areas are:

1) lack of suitable installation support for C++.  At one time, I was able
to adapt the install scripts from Indy 9 to work with Indy 10.  But I never
got the chance to release them.  I have since moved on to making a ton of
other (unrelated) architectural changes to Indy 10 to address other issues,
so I have yet to get back to a compilable state again.  I want to try
compiling the current snapshot as-is, without all of my changes in place,
but don't have much time to get around to it lately.

2) making sure all of the interfaces work in C++.  For example, I just
recently had to change the interface design for the TIdHash classes slightly
because they were using Delphi features that don't work in C++.
Specifically, they were returning arrays as their return values, which is
something the C++ compiler will not allow, so the Delphi compiler produces
the wrong function signatures when generating the C++ header files for the
classes.


Gambit

Thanks, Remy for that explanation.   Hmm!  Not so obvious, as could be 
expected, of course.

Have just bought BDS2006 upgd for BCB6, (�ouch! - personal purchase).  Is 
there a way of having this and BCB6 installed on the same PC?   Could I 
install BCB on one drive and BDS on another, so keeping the Borland 
directories apart?  (I want to continue to service my BCB6 - NM internet 
products _and_ start to get to grips with Indy in BDS.)

Sorry, yet another and possibly daft, question but  can I have _both_ Indy9 
and Indy10 on the same PC using BDS?  (Different drives again?)  I would 
like to follow up your hint about looking at the Indy10 components(that 
interest me) - comparing them with those in Indy 9 to find out how things 
work.  (I haven't used Indy at all yet!)

Best regards,

Peter Evans.


"Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam@no.spam.com> wrote in message 
news:45085b6f@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
> "Peter Evans" <peter-evans@pelcaro.com> wrote in message
> news:45084d23@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
>> Have just got back into Borland's NGs.  This Indy 10 problem in BCB
>> (6Pro in my case) is still with us after more than a year.  I note from
> the
>> replies in this thread and those in the 21aug by Vlad that Remy is the
>> only person working in this area.  This prompts me to ask whether, or 
>> not,
>> any of us can help, and if so, how?
>
> Indy is open source.  Anyone can contribute to it.  The two biggest 
> problem
> areas are:
>
> 1) lack of suitable installation support for C++.  At one time, I was able
> to adapt the install scripts from Indy 9 to work with Indy 10.  But I 
> never
> got the chance to release them.  I have since moved on to making a ton of
> other (unrelated) architectural changes to Indy 10 to address other 
> issues,
> so I have yet to get back to a compilable state again.  I want to try
> compiling the current snapshot as-is, without all of my changes in place,
> but don't have much time to get around to it lately.
>
> 2) making sure all of the interfaces work in C++.  For example, I just
> recently had to change the interface design for the TIdHash classes 
> slightly
> because they were using Delphi features that don't work in C++.
> Specifically, they were returning arrays as their return values, which is
> something the C++ compiler will not allow, so the Delphi compiler produces
> the wrong function signatures when generating the C++ header files for the
> classes.
>
>
> Gambit
>
> 

"Peter Evans" <peter-evans@pelcaro.com> wrote in message
news:450a7af3$1@newsgroups.borland.com...

> Have just bought BDS2006 upgd for BCB6, (�ouch! - personal purchase).
> Is there a way of having this and BCB6 installed on the same PC?

Yes.  Each version has always installed itself to a different folder by
default.

> Could I install BCB on one drive and BDS on another, so keeping the
> Borland directories apart?

Borland already separates its directories by default.

> can I have _both_ Indy9 and Indy10 on the same PC using BDS?

It is technically possible, but I do not have those details onhand, though I
would not recommend it in general anyway, just to avoid conflicts.


Gambit

Thank you, Remy.

Best regards,

Peter Evans.


"Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam@no.spam.com> wrote in message 
news:450b00c2$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
> "Peter Evans" <peter-evans@pelcaro.com> wrote in message
> news:450a7af3$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
>> Have just bought BDS2006 upgd for BCB6, (�ouch! - personal purchase).
>> Is there a way of having this and BCB6 installed on the same PC?
>
> Yes.  Each version has always installed itself to a different folder by
> default.
>
>> Could I install BCB on one drive and BDS on another, so keeping the
>> Borland directories apart?
>
> Borland already separates its directories by default.
>
>> can I have _both_ Indy9 and Indy10 on the same PC using BDS?
>
> It is technically possible, but I do not have those details onhand, though 
> I
> would not recommend it in general anyway, just to avoid conflicts.
>
>
> Gambit
>
>