🚀 go-pugleaf

And I quote (myself):

'So you needed the installation.'

and previously:
'We have a update version that requires v5.0 which requires version 4.0.'

 >Jeff Overcash (TeamB) wrote:
 >
 > So you are stating the same thing I did.  You do not have to install >the
 > previous version to upgrade like the original poster stated.

My statements are nothing like yours. There were two different upgrade 
versions, one required bcb5 and specifically stated it was an upgrade 
from bcb5 only. This is also the version that _requires_ an installation 
of bcb5, and 4.

My general suggestion/complaint has to do with the fact that both v4 and 
v5 were purchased directly from Borland. Borland could have looked at 
its own records to verify this, instead of _requiring_ me to install 
several versions to get their software to work.

>I've also never
> been asked on any version of BCB or Delphi upgrade for an original disk.  BC++
> did ask for a disk, but BCB never has for me.  
Good for you, but obviously others have problems you have not 
encountered. Further, basically calling us liars is not helping us make 
bcb a better, friendlier product that more people will want to use. It 
only makes me question further the level of support Borland is willing 
to offer with this product.

>You have to continue to own the
> original new install that is your qualifier to the upgrade product any ways so
> even if it asked for a disk (note not require that product to be installed on
> your machine) there is no big deal.
As previously stated, it was required, because the bcb 5 disk was also 
an upgrade and was not recognized by the bcb6 installation disk, so bcb5 
had to be installed and likewise version 4 installed first. The whole 
process started with the arrival of my new computer...

Further, I think spending all day installing unnecessary and unwanted 
versions is a 'big deal' which I would prefer _not_ have happen again. 
(Hence my original rant.) Obviously, there is at least one other person 
that would like to make sure this is not required in the future. Maybe 
two, if you would like to continue on the path that you have evidently 
been put on by Borland. (You do agree this should not be happening, right?)

> 
> BTW, just yesterday I installed BCB6 upgrade on a machine that has no previous
> version of BCB on it nor did it ask for my qualifying product's disk.
> 
That is great for you. Again, as before:
I am just curious why TeamB likes to comment on things they don't know 
anything about. If you had the same problem or a possible solution, by 
all means pipe up. But if your not sure of what you are talking about, 
please don't take the opportunity to evangelize. Believe me, if you are 
reading these posts, you _are_ on the bandwagon. If you cannot contain 
such urges, post how great Borland is on a Microsoft users group!

By this I mean, why do you want to piss me off? I am a longtime user of 
Borland products and would like some of these issues addressed (or maybe 
at least commiserate with others). You are not helping me, or any other 
user by saying the problem(s) does(do) not exist. I am not saying jump 
ship to MS, I am asking to be treated at least as well as the Delphi 
users. If Borland doesn't see it that way, then I would like to know. 
Once I know what the plan actually is, then I might suggest jumping ship 
or staying with BCB5, or possibly even sending _Borland_ some money and 
upgrading to 2006.

Upgrade to 2006 is what I would actually like to see happen. I have a 
lot invested with Borland and moving elsewhere will mean learning 
another language/library, moving/changing/porting code, legacy issues 
and the list continues... I DON'T need convincing that Borland can make 
a great product, I need convinced they are going to release and support 
a great product. And I'd also like to know the costs and what the 
support includes.

Most people who deny problems are not interested in helping. This seems 
to be the case with you and maybe Borland. Saying you have not 
encountered or could not duplicate the problem is one thing, calling us 
liars is another. If you still need convinced, get permission from 
Borland and I will be happy to send you the disks. Or better yet, you 
could assume I have told the truth and am interested in making 2006 a 
product worth purchasing.

Gene