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Interresting, every one of the controls that you mention are present in my 
installation of C++Builder 2006.  All are present in the samples area, and 
several show up elsewhere also (for example, TTrayIcon is found in the 
Additional area). However, I was a bit paranoid during load and selected to 
load everything.  I have the Pro version.

It is my impression that BCB6 components must be recompiled to work with 
2006, so if you have the source code, you should be in good shape.

** Tom **


"Alain M. Dube" <adube@cadencesoftware.com> wrote in message 
news:43d1570a$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Hello;
>
> A number of "sample" vcl controls/components that I've used extensively in 
> BCB6 are no longer available in C++Builder2006, for example, TrayIcon, 
> CSpinButton, CSpinEdit and CCalendar.
>
> Are there 2006 equivalents to these?  I am unable to load my projects in 
> 2006 without it catching on the missing VCL items.
>
> Also, can 3rd-party VCL components for BCB6 be used asis in 2006?  Some of 
> these components are very expensive.
>
> Thanks;
>
> A Dube
> 

Hi Tom;

Thanks for your quick reply.

I think my problems can be explained by the total lack of a "samples area" 
in the Tool Palette.  I've used BCB since v3, but this new 2006 stuff is 
very different.  Trying to figure my way around.  Are the "Samples" an 
elective or something that I perhaps opted out of (perhaps at install time)?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Regards;

Al

"Thomas Goodson" <thomas_nospam.goodson@omega-link.com> wrote in message 
news:43d160ad$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Interresting, every one of the controls that you mention are present in my 
> installation of C++Builder 2006.  All are present in the samples area, and 
> several show up elsewhere also (for example, TTrayIcon is found in the 
> Additional area). However, I was a bit paranoid during load and selected 
> to load everything.  I have the Pro version.
>
> It is my impression that BCB6 components must be recompiled to work with 
> 2006, so if you have the source code, you should be in good shape.
>
> ** Tom **
>
>
> "Alain M. Dube" <adube@cadencesoftware.com> wrote in message 
> news:43d1570a$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>> Hello;
>>
>> A number of "sample" vcl controls/components that I've used extensively 
>> in BCB6 are no longer available in C++Builder2006, for example, TrayIcon, 
>> CSpinButton, CSpinEdit and CCalendar.
>>
>> Are there 2006 equivalents to these?  I am unable to load my projects in 
>> 2006 without it catching on the missing VCL items.
>>
>> Also, can 3rd-party VCL components for BCB6 be used asis in 2006?  Some 
>> of these components are very expensive.
>>
>> Thanks;
>>
>> A Dube
>>
>
> 

Simple answer: I don't know.  All I can tell you is that when I installed, I 
made special point to being sure that I installed ALL the options.  So far 
I've had real bad luck with existing projects, but have been able to build 
new projects using the existing unit files without trouble.
(A case of the blind leading the blind here, maybe somebody that knows what 
they're talking about will jump in and help)


"Alain M. Dube" <adube@cadencesoftware.com> wrote in message 
news:43d16328$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Hi Tom;
>
> Thanks for your quick reply.
>
> I think my problems can be explained by the total lack of a "samples area" 
> in the Tool Palette.  I've used BCB since v3, but this new 2006 stuff is 
> very different.  Trying to figure my way around.  Are the "Samples" an 
> elective or something that I perhaps opted out of (perhaps at install 
> time)?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Regards;
>
> Al
>
> "Thomas Goodson" <thomas_nospam.goodson@omega-link.com> wrote in message 
> news:43d160ad$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>> Interresting, every one of the controls that you mention are present in 
>> my installation of C++Builder 2006.  All are present in the samples area, 
>> and several show up elsewhere also (for example, TTrayIcon is found in 
>> the Additional area). However, I was a bit paranoid during load and 
>> selected to load everything.  I have the Pro version.
>>
>> It is my impression that BCB6 components must be recompiled to work with 
>> 2006, so if you have the source code, you should be in good shape.
>>
>> ** Tom **
>>
>>
>> "Alain M. Dube" <adube@cadencesoftware.com> wrote in message 
>> news:43d1570a$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>>> Hello;
>>>
>>> A number of "sample" vcl controls/components that I've used extensively 
>>> in BCB6 are no longer available in C++Builder2006, for example, 
>>> TrayIcon, CSpinButton, CSpinEdit and CCalendar.
>>>
>>> Are there 2006 equivalents to these?  I am unable to load my projects in 
>>> 2006 without it catching on the missing VCL items.
>>>
>>> Also, can 3rd-party VCL components for BCB6 be used asis in 2006?  Some 
>>> of these components are very expensive.
>>>
>>> Thanks;
>>>
>>> A Dube
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

I'll have to retrace my steps through setup.

I hope that your bad luck in not contagious; I've got some serious BCB6 code 
that I intend to migreate to this new stuff.  Hope it works!

Thanks for your help.


"Thomas Goodson" <thomas_nospam.goodson@omega-link.com> wrote in message 
news:43d170c3$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Simple answer: I don't know.  All I can tell you is that when I installed, 
> I made special point to being sure that I installed ALL the options.  So 
> far I've had real bad luck with existing projects, but have been able to 
> build new projects using the existing unit files without trouble.
> (A case of the blind leading the blind here, maybe somebody that knows 
> what they're talking about will jump in and help)
>
>
> "Alain M. Dube" <adube@cadencesoftware.com> wrote in message 
> news:43d16328$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>> Hi Tom;
>>
>> Thanks for your quick reply.
>>
>> I think my problems can be explained by the total lack of a "samples 
>> area" in the Tool Palette.  I've used BCB since v3, but this new 2006 
>> stuff is very different.  Trying to figure my way around.  Are the 
>> "Samples" an elective or something that I perhaps opted out of (perhaps 
>> at install time)?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>> Regards;
>>
>> Al
>>
>> "Thomas Goodson" <thomas_nospam.goodson@omega-link.com> wrote in message 
>> news:43d160ad$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>>> Interresting, every one of the controls that you mention are present in 
>>> my installation of C++Builder 2006.  All are present in the samples 
>>> area, and several show up elsewhere also (for example, TTrayIcon is 
>>> found in the Additional area). However, I was a bit paranoid during load 
>>> and selected to load everything.  I have the Pro version.
>>>
>>> It is my impression that BCB6 components must be recompiled to work with 
>>> 2006, so if you have the source code, you should be in good shape.
>>>
>>> ** Tom **
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alain M. Dube" <adube@cadencesoftware.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:43d1570a$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>>>> Hello;
>>>>
>>>> A number of "sample" vcl controls/components that I've used extensively 
>>>> in BCB6 are no longer available in C++Builder2006, for example, 
>>>> TrayIcon, CSpinButton, CSpinEdit and CCalendar.
>>>>
>>>> Are there 2006 equivalents to these?  I am unable to load my projects 
>>>> in 2006 without it catching on the missing VCL items.
>>>>
>>>> Also, can 3rd-party VCL components for BCB6 be used asis in 2006?  Some 
>>>> of these components are very expensive.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks;
>>>>
>>>> A Dube
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

Alain M. Dube wrote:

> A number of "sample" vcl controls/components that I've used
> extensively in BCB6 are no longer available in C++Builder2006, for
> example, TrayIcon, CSpinButton, CSpinEdit and CCalendar.
> 
> Are there 2006 equivalents to these?  I am unable to load my projects
> in 2006 without it catching on the missing VCL items.

Quick history lesson:
Most of those samples started life as example controls written in
Delphi, to teach the art of component writing.

When BCB was created these samples were 'transliterated' to BCB -
written in C++ syntax but in a Delphi style.  It was later discovered
that as they had the same names, it was not possible to use the Delphi
and C++ controls in the same project.  So the following version of BCB
added the 'C' prefix.

Later, some examples were written purely for BCB, such as TTrayIcon.
Naturally, the Delphi customers wanted this control too, so it is now a
supported part of the VCL and not a sample at all.

Finally we come to BCB2006 where C++/Delphi are finally in synch.  The
controls without the prefix are now part of the supported VCL, and the
TC version should still be available as a sample for C++ customers
backwards compatibility.  If you can't find them I would take a look
around your installation to see if there is a project for you to build
and install.

> Also, can 3rd-party VCL components for BCB6 be used asis in 2006?
> Some of these components are very expensive.

That depends on whether they came with source code.
If you have source, there is a very good chance you can just recompile
them in the new IDE and they will install.  There MAY be a little
'porting' to do, as we are effectively jumping from VCL6 to VCL10, and
some things may have changed.  This will be equivalent of finding any
issues in your own code too.

If you don't have source, you are entirely dependent on your tool
vendor.  That is why we will never use controls without source in our
production systems.  It is not just a matter of being able to fix bugs
ourselves if necessary - it is much safer to be self sufficient at the
next compiler upgrade, although we prefer a supported solution where
possible <g>

-- 
AlisdairM(TeamB)

AlisdairM wrote:
> Alain M. Dube wrote:
> ... from VCL6 to VCL10, and some things may have changed.

Can you point out document like "what's new and what's fixed in VCL10"?

Alex.