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> I install the .NET framework 2.0 in my computer.
> i know .net 2.0 added some new webcontrols like WebMenu(in new
> system.web.dll).
> but i don't know how do i use it( or install it).
> 
> please expert tell me , thanks a lot.
> 

You have to wait until the next version comes out at some stage next 
year. Or upgrade to VS2005.

Craig.

Craig wrote:

<snip>
> You have to wait until the next version comes out at some stage next
> year. Or upgrade to VS2005.
<snip>

That's no upgrading, that is buying a completely different product,
from a different company, with which it is impossible to use the Delphi
language.


-- 

You can also get the freebee - Visual Web Designer express version.   (VB 
for .net only)


"Marco Caspers" <HexorHaxor@vaxor.com> wrote in message 
news:45751a41@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Craig wrote:
>
> <snip>
>> You have to wait until the next version comes out at some stage next
>> year. Or upgrade to VS2005.
> <snip>
>
> That's no upgrading, that is buying a completely different product,
> from a different company, with which it is impossible to use the Delphi
> language.
>
>
> -- 
> 

John Bitzberger schreef:

> You can also get the freebee - Visual Web Designer express version.   (VB 
> for .net only)

Personally I'd use Visual Web Designer Express with C#.

It's not because VB.Net projects are the default on first start-up that 
it doesn't come with C#. It's aimed at beginners, and that's probably 
the reason that it comes with VB.Net set as the default language for new 
projects.

But it's also aimed at students, and what they are supposed to do with 
VB.Net I don't know.

Danny
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Hi,

I've got the feeling that someone is pre-occupied about VB.NET here.
As a Delphi programmer I think that VB.NET is more like Delphi than C#.
If you do not feel comfortable with the old VB (6.0), then I have to agree 
about this.
Some programming tools (and also some web-sites) offer translation 
functionallity between VB.NEt and C#
If you put both program fragments side by side then you will notice that 
most of the time there are only minor differences betwee VB.NEt and C#, most 
noticable are the curly braces of course, where VB.NET uses a begin/end 
construction (like Delphi).
I've used VB.NET (1.1 and 2.0) in some projects and had to conclude that 
this is a beautiful language and not only for beginners. Also the support 
you get in VS2003/VS2005 is better than for C#. Using VB.NET feels more like 
using Delphi than using C#. (Besides this, all DotNet languages feel like 
using Delphi, which is not a very big miracle if one takes into 
consideration who designed DotNet)
Delphi is still my favorite language, but I'm waiting for Delphi 2007 so 
that I can use DotNet 2.0 (and hopefully DotNet 3.0 soon)

Joop

"danny heijl" <danny_dot_heijl_at_cevi_dot_be> schreef in bericht 
news:45879633$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> John Bitzberger schreef:
>
>> You can also get the freebee - Visual Web Designer express version.   (VB 
>> for .net only)
>
> Personally I'd use Visual Web Designer Express with C#.
>
> It's not because VB.Net projects are the default on first start-up that it 
> doesn't come with C#. It's aimed at beginners, and that's probably the 
> reason that it comes with VB.Net set as the default language for new 
> projects.
>
> But it's also aimed at students, and what they are supposed to do with 
> VB.Net I don't know.
>
> Danny
> ---
>
> 

Marco Caspers a �crit :
> That's no upgrading, that is buying a completely different product,
> from a different company, with which it is impossible to use the Delphi
> language.

you can use Chrome, is a Delphi like syntax language (with more options 
like constraint programming) and it runs under VS2005 as a plugin.
For people who need .NET 2.0 and can't wait for codegear it's a good 
choice.

-- 
OD

OD wrote:

> you can use Chrome, is a Delphi like syntax language (with more
> options like constraint programming) and it runs under VS2005 as a
> plugin.  For people who need .NET 2.0 and can't wait for codegear
> it's a good choice.

I do not disagree with this, Chrome has it's own qualities and while
it's language is Pascal like, the differences are significant.

Also i'd never tell it's an upgrade from Delphi because that'd imply
it's a Borland product and a successor to Delphi, which it is definitly
not on both accounts.

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Marco Caspers a �crit :
> I do not disagree with this, Chrome has it's own qualities and while
> it's language is Pascal like, the differences are significant.

Of course, Chrome is not Delphi, but new users coming from Delphi don't 
have the "language wall" to break. Some people don't want learning more 
than one language and like to "feel at home" when programming. In such 
a case it's a good choice. For people who are not affraid of changes, 
it's best to chose c#.

> Also i'd never tell it's an upgrade from Delphi because that'd imply
> it's a Borland product and a successor to Delphi, which it is definitly
> not on both accounts.

The successor of Delphi exists, it's C#, but Borland doesn't keep the 
man behind the language, so it's a MS product. Sad story.

-- 
OD

OD wrote:

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> > Also i'd never tell it's an upgrade from Delphi because that'd imply
> > it's a Borland product and a successor to Delphi, which it is
> > definitly not on both accounts.
> 
> The successor of Delphi exists, it's C#, but Borland doesn't keep the
> man behind the language, so it's a MS product. Sad story.


As you say, it's a Microsoft product, therefore it must not be, can not
be called a successor to Delphi, because it is not. It is a completely
different language made by a different company and therefore can not be
a successor to Delphi.

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Marco Caspers a �crit :
> As you say, it's a Microsoft product, therefore it must not be, can not
> be called a successor to Delphi, because it is not. It is a completely
> different language made by a different company and therefore can not be
> a successor to Delphi.

There is only one person behind Delphi and C#, the same person. Who 
created C# after Delphi. For me this make one the successor of the 
other. No matter the brand on the packaging.
Your point of view seems to be headed by a "community" feeling, mine is 
only based upon the facts.

-- 
OD

OD wrote:

<snip>

> There is only one person behind Delphi and C#, the same person. Who
> created C# after Delphi. For me this make one the successor of the
> other. No matter the brand on the packaging.  Your point of view
> seems to be headed by a "community" feeling, mine is only based upon
> the facts.

This is a completely false statement.
There is not a one single person behind Delphi, nor is there a single
one person behind C#.

It is, and will remain a false statement that C# is a successor to
Delphi.

C# is derived from Visual C/C++, Delphi is derived from Turbo/Borland
Pascal. Which aptly describes the fact why your statements are false
and will remain so.

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Marco Caspers a �crit :
> This is a completely false statement.

that's your point of view, not mine, of course...

> There is not a one single person behind Delphi, nor is there a single
> one person behind C#.

The designer is the same, no matter how much assistants.

> It is, and will remain a false statement that C# is a successor to
> Delphi.

Heil ! So sprach Herr diktator !

> C# is derived from Visual C/C++, 

You don't know C#.
C# its Delphi with a Java syntax.

> Delphi is derived from Turbo/Borland

Delphi is a specific product having very little to do with Pascal, just 
global syntax, you don't know Pascal. Delphi is a POO language, Pascal 
has no POO, and even compare to Turbo Pascal, objects are not managed 
the same way.

> Pascal. Which aptly describes the fact why your statements are false
> and will remain so.

That describes that you don't know nor C# nor Delphi, and why your 
statements have no interest...

-- 
OD