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Hi Brundlefly,

> I need to do a due diligence on some code written using Delphi 2006 for 
> .NET. Unfortunately, there's no trial available for this any longer and I 
> had to download the 30 day trial for CodeGear RAD Studio 2007.

I'm not sure what a "due diligence" is, but if you need Delphi 2006 for 
.NET, then you should know that you can still purchase the box/CD from 
your local reseller... Just ask for Borland Developer Studio 2006 in the 
flavour you need (Professional, Enterprise or Architect).

> That's OK, but the codebase uses .NET v1.1 not v2.0 (which is a prereq for 
> installing RAD Studio) - therefore a number of projects don't compile and 
> consequently I need some advice:
> 
> 1) Does anyone know where a trial of Delphi for .NET 2006 can be found?
> 2) failing that, can I somehow set .NET 1.1 compatibility for older 
> projects?

No, but you can migrate them to .NET 2.0 if you wish. It's not that hard.

Note however that projects compiled with the trial version of CodeGear 
RAD Studio 2007 (or any trial version of Delphi for that matter) cannot 
be deployed and should be used for evaluation purposes only.

> Surely someone else needs to do this too :)
> 
> I know zero about Delphi - this is the first time I've had anything to do 
> with it, so TIA for any pointers here as to standard practice.

I know zero about your "due diligence" projects, but if it's commercial 
work, you or the one hiring you should have a commercial version of 
Delphi to compile and deploy them.

If it's academic work, then there are special academic versions of the 
product available.

> Sam 

Groetjes,
           Bob Swart

-- 
Bob Swart Training & Consultancy (eBob42.com) Forever Loyal to Delphi
CodeGear Technology Partner -- CodeGear RAD Studio Reseller (BeNeLux)
Blog: http://www.drbob42.com/blog - RSS: http://eBob42.com/weblog.xml

Hi Bob,

Fair enough - the story is that I have a new client who has had another 
company develop a Win CE app using Delphi 2006 for .Net.

By "due diligence", I mean that I have been tasked as a consultant to 
confirm that the codebase given to them

1) is compilable and matches the executables
2) is buildable & deployable using the documented instructions that the 
developers supplied as part of their deliverables
3) is adequately described by this same set of documentation

...and probably some other stuff too. Depends how far it goes.

I guess from your response that the answer is "no" - ie RAD 2007 forces you 
to use the v2 of the .Net framework? Seems odd that it would do that (to me 
anyway).

So as you can see, changing even one line of code is not an option for a 
project of this type. I simply need to get it "working" to start with.

Of course building currently fails as the code uses a number of methods that 
have been deprecated / made obselete in .Net v2 and you're correct - the 
client should have a copy of Delphi 2006, but they don't.

And thanks for the heads up on the deployment restriction. You probably 
saved me a week of my life trying to get that happenning :)

So I'll need to buy it as you say. Oh well - it all goes on the invoice.....

Thanx

Sam

"Bob Swart" <Bob@eBob42.com> wrote in message 
news:478F0BD2.6040302@eBob42.com...
> Hi Brundlefly,
>
>> I need to do a due diligence on some code written using Delphi 2006 for 
>> .NET. Unfortunately, there's no trial available for this any longer and I 
>> had to download the 30 day trial for CodeGear RAD Studio 2007.
>
> I'm not sure what a "due diligence" is, but if you need Delphi 2006 for 
> .NET, then you should know that you can still purchase the box/CD from 
> your local reseller... Just ask for Borland Developer Studio 2006 in the 
> flavour you need (Professional, Enterprise or Architect).
>
>> That's OK, but the codebase uses .NET v1.1 not v2.0 (which is a prereq 
>> for installing RAD Studio) - therefore a number of projects don't compile 
>> and consequently I need some advice:
>>
>> 1) Does anyone know where a trial of Delphi for .NET 2006 can be found?
>> 2) failing that, can I somehow set .NET 1.1 compatibility for older 
>> projects?
>
> No, but you can migrate them to .NET 2.0 if you wish. It's not that hard.
>
> Note however that projects compiled with the trial version of CodeGear RAD 
> Studio 2007 (or any trial version of Delphi for that matter) cannot be 
> deployed and should be used for evaluation purposes only.
>
>> Surely someone else needs to do this too :)
>>
>> I know zero about Delphi - this is the first time I've had anything to do 
>> with it, so TIA for any pointers here as to standard practice.
>
> I know zero about your "due diligence" projects, but if it's commercial 
> work, you or the one hiring you should have a commercial version of Delphi 
> to compile and deploy them.
>
> If it's academic work, then there are special academic versions of the 
> product available.
>
>> Sam
>
> Groetjes,
>           Bob Swart
>
> -- 
> Bob Swart Training & Consultancy (eBob42.com) Forever Loyal to Delphi
> CodeGear Technology Partner -- CodeGear RAD Studio Reseller (BeNeLux)
> Blog: http://www.drbob42.com/blog - RSS: http://eBob42.com/weblog.xml 

Sorry - I also meant to ask if there's any reason that Borland would enforce 
this?

It seems like a poor strategy to force developers to upgrade to .Net v2 - I 
would have thought it would be backwards compatible.

How is anyone going to be able to maintain older systems that can't (for 
some reason) be upgraded?

Cheers

Sam 

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:44:08 +1100, Brundlefly wrote:

> It seems like a poor strategy to force developers to upgrade to .Net v2 - I 
> would have thought it would be backwards compatible.

It is technically very difficult because Microsoft has not made a way
to load more than one runtime into a process or to unload the runtime.
It would also be very hard to support.

Have you tried using Turbo Explorer or Turbo Professional? 
http://turboexplorer.com/

They are based on the Delphi 2006 code with some limitations.

-- 
Marc Rohloff [TeamB]
marc -at- marc rohloff -dot- com