🚀 go-pugleaf

Boy I know how you feel...

I have been buying the Borland Delphi line since... well before Delphi... I 
think the first compiler I bought was BP5... since then it has been one 
version after the next... I was astounded with BP7 for Windows... Graphics 
programmming was a whole new game... until Delphi for Windows... which made 
windows development a whole lot easier and cleaner... I remember that hurdle 
and that really got me through this last one...  Although there was a bunch 
of cursing... I'm not what you would call a hard core programmer... I am 
more of an infrastructure person, but I have developed some pretty slick 
applications in my time... stuff that made my life and the lives of a few of 
my customers a whole lot easier... Which brings us back to the present...

.NET is a very clean object structure if you think about it... I actually 
believe that Microsoft developers have a much shorter learning curve then do 
those of us who primarily use Delphi... Microsoft tools never were really 
very clean or intuitive like Borlands IDE in Delphi... Borland also took a 
lot of the gore out of Windows development and really gave you a full 
compliment of samples and examples to work from... Microsof did too, but 
lets face it... much of it was ugly code... with this latest .NET release of 
Delphi I can honestly say that I am extremely disappointed... I have two 
reasons for this... and this gets to the core of your problem... One... Very 
little sample and example to work from... there are a few, but unless you 
stick with it... hunt, hunt, hunt the web, and spend several hours just 
testing junk out... well... you know the drill... The second reason is the 
friggin thing throws errors like a Microsoft Beta realeas of an Operating 
System... I have never had a compiler crash so often that it actually had me 
thinking of removing the crap from my workstation... My first month was the 
worst... familiarity with the interface helped a great deal, but I had to 
develop my own source code recovery methodology... I was getting, what I 
thought was pretty good at developing ASP forms... then I finally agreed to 
build an interface for someone... didn't charge much, small project, and 
confident based on what I had done... then I got like two weeks in... almost 
through... things are going well... I do a compile of the project and BAMMM! 
My friggen forms are gone... and my backup (~aspx) files are like 1K along 
with my actuals... all the source is in the .pas files but the forms are 
GONE... WHAT THE @#!$! Luckily I had copied the project onto a USB flash 
drive to move it from my development environment to the test environment... 
I was able to copy the file back in and recompile... now... every time I 
compile I look at the sizes of the files... and I make backups before I 
compile... so much for RAD development... Now I have a new development 
acronym... BUFFER... which stands for BACK UP your F*&^ING FILES of 
EXPERIENCE REGRET!

Beyond that... I've finally got a methodology that works... I stay away from 
the BDP junk and I go straight for the .NET architecture... I found a 
methodology that works... it happens to be a recycled BP5-6 methodology we 
used before Object oriented programming... although with objects it's much 
cleaner, but the methodlogy bodes well for web forms and the disconnected 
nature of the forms and events... I still like Delphi... I see the benifits 
long term and I like what is planned for Delphi 2005... I just hope they 
don't scam me with a beta realease like D8 again... By the way... When is 
the next patch realease to fix all this crap in D8 Enterprise... it sucks 
that I paid $1600.00 for this and it acts like Borland should be paying me 
to find the bug checks... I think Enterprise purchasers should get a 
discount on the upgrade to Delphi 2005... or they should give us free 
software assurance... that would be a nice gesture to retain customer 
loyalty... cause I'm hearing some nice stuff about ASP.NET... even from long 
term, hard core, Delphi developers...


"DA Brookes" <david_dot_brookes_at_interserveprojects.com> wrote in message 
news:4177b896$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Hi
> I've had D8 for 10 months now. Each time I take a look at it, I end up 
> going
> back to D6.
>
> I am trying to create a very simple web form. It has two databases, a
> DBwebdropdownlist and a dbwebgrid.
>
> All I want to do is select a value from the drop down list (database1) 
> which
> then selects the required fields (from a second database) in the grid.
>
> In D6 / D7 this is easy, I enter code to run a query in "onchange (etc)" 
> in
> D8, I'm clueless.
>
> This shouldn't be rocket science and I feel foolish having to ask.
>
> Perhaps someone could provide an example, or point me to a site that 
> offers
> examples ?
>
> Regards
> Dave
>
>