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3 total messages Started by SteveH Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:09
Managed Code Borland Datastore
#127
Author: SteveH
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 10:09
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I saw a very interesting conference report (from 2004 I believe) which 
talked about a managed code database engine from Borland. Is that still 
ongoing development or has it been cut back? To be honest it looked quite 
interesting because it seems to me that developing database apps to run on 
shared third party hosting basically means you have to go the MS-SQL route. 
That is good for high performance, but if all you need is a simple low 
traffic BBS it seems overkill.

I had a go at using Access, only to find my hosting company doesn't allow MS 
Access connections from ASP.NET pages. I know ASP.NET is more secure but 
sometimes the security makes it hard to get on with what you want to 
accomplish.

Any progress with the Borland Managed Database?

Steve.
Re: Managed Code Borland Datastore
#128
Author: Wayne Niddery [TeamB]
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:00
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SteveH wrote:
> I saw a very interesting conference report (from 2004 I believe) which
> talked about a managed code database engine from Borland. Is that
> still ongoing development or has it been cut back?

You're thinking of "nDatastore".

It seems it was derailed for some time because a couple of key people 
responsible for it (and JDatastore, from which it sprang) had left the 
company. However, both of those people have come back (Allen Bauer talks 
about this in his blog 
http://blogs.borland.com/abauer/archive/2006/06/16/25352.aspx) so, while 
there's been no official announcement that I'm aware of, I expect to see it 
get completed and released - hopefully soon.

-- 
Wayne Niddery - Winwright, Inc (www.winwright.ca)
Working for yourself is great because you get to work half days, and
you can choose any twelve hours you want. 
Re: Managed Code Borland Datastore - maybe not Utopia after all
#129
Author: SteveH
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:11
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Hi,
I just wanted to run this past you because even with managed code, not all 
goes according to plan. Although I have a suspicion it probably is all going 
according to plan from the MS point of view because it is not easy even with 
managed code .DLL's to get things working.

I did find a managed code database engine called VistaDB 3.0

I purchased the CTP version, and had a go with it.

All works fine until it is uploaded to the shared hosting site. Once there, 
the complex security of .NET comes into play, and I hit problems with 
"partially trusted caller". After some research on the .NET I found I need 
to create a custom policy configuration file. Went through all that hassle, 
uploaded it all, and received the error that the web administrator has 
locked access to the securityPolicy tag using allowOverride=false. I guess 
this is a similar situation to web hosting companies in the ASP days not 
allowing people to register their own .COM objects.

So, it doesn't work.

The security of .NET can be quite a pain to work with. It will take me quite 
a while to get to grips with it. But, this scenario is something worth 
looking into if the NDataStore team want to deploy their engine in shared 
hosting scenarios.

Steve.
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