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8 total messages Started by Dennis Poon Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:11
is D7 or new version slower than D5
#225
Author: Dennis Poon
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:11
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I am using D5 still.

If I upgrade to D7 or even newer version, will the IDE and compiler runs 
considerably slower?

I know new versions has larger packages loaded in memory. If I unload all 
unnecessary, infrequently used packages in the IDE, will it consume similar 
amount of memory?

My concern is: I got a new Duo Core computer, if I upgrade to newer version 
of Delphi, will it slow it back to the old speed of D5 on single core 
computer and defeats my purpose of getting a Duo Core?

Thanks in advance.

Dennis 
Re: is D7 or new version slower than D5
#224
Author: John Herbster
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:33
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"Dennis Poon" <send2dennishk@yahoo.com.hk.no.spam> wrote 
> I am using D5 still.  If I upgrade to D7 or even newer version, will the IDE and compiler runs considerably slower?

Dennis,  
I have both D5 and D7 installed under WinXP.  
I use both, and prefer D5 for quick programming projects because it loads in a few seconds faster; though for "finished" projects I use D7.
HTH, JohnH
Re: is D7 or new version slower than D5
#226
Author: Dennis Poon
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:31
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May I why you do the final compilation in D7 instead of D5?
Fewer bugs ( i know D5 has some memory leaks) or better compilation?
Is the resultant exe much bigger if compiled using D7?
thanks

Dennis
"John Herbster" <herb-sci1_AT_sbcglobal.net> wrote in message 
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"Dennis Poon" <send2dennishk@yahoo.com.hk.no.spam> wrote
> I am using D5 still.  If I upgrade to D7 or even newer version, will the 
> IDE and compiler runs considerably slower?

Dennis,
I have both D5 and D7 installed under WinXP.
I use both, and prefer D5 for quick programming projects because it loads in 
a few seconds faster; though for "finished" projects I use D7.
HTH, JohnH
Re: is D7 or new version slower than D5
#227
Author: Frank Marousek
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:17
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>I am using D5 still.
>
> If I upgrade to D7 or even newer version, will the IDE and compiler runs 
> considerably slower?
>
> My concern is: I got a new Duo Core computer, if I upgrade to newer 
> version of Delphi, will it slow it back to the old speed of D5 on single 
> core computer and defeats my purpose of getting a Duo Core?

I upgraded from D5 to RAD Studio 2007 within the past year or so. In order 
to do so, I bought a new development machine (Core 2 Duo with 4GB RAM). To 
me, Delphi 2007 slower than D5, but the performance, to me, is acceptable on 
such a machine (your mileage may vary). As I become more and more familiar 
with the new IDE features, I'm quite sure my overall productivity will be 
much higher with D2007-- and that's what really counts, isn't it? 
Re: is D7 or new version slower than D5
#228
Author: John Herbster
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:34
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"Dennis Poon" <send2dennishk@yahoo.com.hk.no.spam> wrote
> May I why you do the final compilation in D7 instead of D5?

No special reason, except that I believe D7 to be better all around.
Some projects may never see D5.  
Rgds, JohnH
Re: is D7 or new version slower than D5
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Author: Mike Williams (TeamB)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:31
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Dennis Poon wrote:

> My concern is: I got a new Duo Core computer, if I upgrade to newer
> version of Delphi, will it slow it back to the old speed of D5 on
> single core computer and defeats my purpose of getting a Duo Core?

With Delphi 7 open but doing nothing I see 11 threads in task manager.
Any program that has multiple threads will potentially run faster on a
dual core processor. Delphi 7 is old enough at this point that I think
you'll find it runs plenty fast on modern hardware.

-- 
-Mike (TeamB)
Re: is D7 or new version slower than D5
#233
Author: Rod
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:01
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Dennis Poon wrote:
> I am using D5 still.
> 
> If I upgrade to D7 or even newer version, will the IDE and compiler runs 
> considerably slower?
> 
> I know new versions has larger packages loaded in memory. If I unload all 
> unnecessary, infrequently used packages in the IDE, will it consume similar 
> amount of memory?
> 
> My concern is: I got a new Duo Core computer, if I upgrade to newer version 
> of Delphi, will it slow it back to the old speed of D5 on single core 
> computer and defeats my purpose of getting a Duo Core?

Yes D5 is faster than D7. I have seen that D5 uses some external obj 
files (compiled from TASM) in the RTL. They have been incorporated into 
Delphi 6 as "asm ... end;". The source code looks much cleaner and 
snappier. I think D5 has the best "look and feel".
Re: is D7 or new version slower than D5
#239
Author: David Cornelius
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 08:12
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You really need not be concerned with the loading speed of an IDE.
With modern hardware, software can be written with more features to
increase productivity.  Sure it may take a tiny bit longer to load
initially, but so what?  You live in the IDE all day, and like Frank
said, it's the productivity boost that counts, isn't it?

I develop Delphi 5 plug-ins and some apps for an old commercially sold
software written in Delphi 5.  I write new stand-alone applications in
Delphi 2007.  I often have both running simultaneously.  I don't even
notice that it takes a few seconds longer to load Delphi 2007, but I
sure do like the new features (mentioned elswhere in this group and on
numerous web sites).

The things I notice that slow computers down the most are things like
Outlook and desktop-search engines that constantly index files in the
background.  Don't worry about your development tool!

And if you're worried about the speed of compiled .EXEs?  They're both
practically the same--after all, they're both still Win32 apps, right?

-- 
David Cornelius
CorneliusConcepts.com
custom designed software


Dennis Poon wrote:

> I am using D5 still.
> 
> If I upgrade to D7 or even newer version, will the IDE and compiler
> runs considerably slower?
> 
> I know new versions has larger packages loaded in memory. If I unload
> all unnecessary, infrequently used packages in the IDE, will it
> consume similar amount of memory?
> 
> My concern is: I got a new Duo Core computer, if I upgrade to newer
> version of Delphi, will it slow it back to the old speed of D5 on
> single core computer and defeats my purpose of getting a Duo Core?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Dennis
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