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Article #5475Re: Open Source or For Sale?
From: Ben Matterson
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:29
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:29
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Erwin van den Bosch wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:17:23 -0800, Ben Matterson > <bmatterson@borland.com> wrote: > > >Binary files from Borland are required to go though a fair amount of > >review before being posted. As a business, why would Borland invest > >that kind of time and effort in something that would 1) provide no > >return on that investment and 2) take away revenue from the > >certified version? > > Ben, > > As you know binary files are the result of the source code. > What you saying is that you put the source code on the internet > without testing? How do you test source code? Compile it and test it. We do not have the excess manpower that we can do that kind of testing every day or week or whatever. We are going to save that effort for certifying commercial builds. Like I said, Borland is a business, and requires a return on an investment. > But i don't > understand why you open sourced interbase in the first place. What > was it's goal? I thought (correct me) that borland wanted interbase > a widely used product so they could sell support. I was not with Borland at the time the decision is made, but if you want my conjecture I'll give it to you, with the understanding that this is just a GUESS on my part and in no way constitutes an official statement from Borland on this subject. My guess is that Borland wanted to cash in on the superhot internet startup frenzy of a year or so ago. InterBase Software Corp., with that beautiful "open source" buzz word around it's product, probably seemed like a great prospect for the "spin off - IPO - cash in" maneuver. What happened after that is blurred through the lens of time and opinion. Thus far no company has managed to make money with the "sell support for OS software" model. Linux is the epitome of the successful open source project; it's the crown jewel of the open source software movement. But Red Hat hasn't turned a profit yet. Making money by selling support does not seem to make money. > I think the difference in money between a version of interbase that > works great but open source that cost nothing and a certified > version is to big. How can i sell a certified version to my > customers for $1200? Till now they get a free version that works > great. And if i let my customers simply let them choose what will > the choose? I think the free version because they don't see what > they get for $1200. I suspect you will be right in some cases and wrong in some, maybe more, cases; it depends on the customer. Corporations generally prefer commercial software so that they know they have somewhere to turn if things go wrong. Linux may be becoming the exception to this rule. > And what if application "A" uses a open source version of > interbase and program "B" uses the certified version. And > application "B" checks if the certified version is installed. > Installed on the same computer. I think that will not work > because of version mismatch. Yep, that does sound like a potential problem. <snip> > So what is your solution to this versioning problem? Sorry, I don't have one to give you right now. I'll give it some thought and raise it to the team, but the ugly fact is that there just may not be a good answer. Like I said, I don't know. Ben -- InterBase Technical Support Borland Software Corp. And now a word from Legal and Marketing... This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of any e-mail and any printout thereof. Accelerate your LinuxοΏ½ application development with Kylix(TM), the RAD tool for Linux. Easily integrate web, desktop and database development to quickly deliver fast Linux applications. Kylix is the only Linux development tool that combines the world's fastest compiler with the most productive visual design environment for GUI, web and database programming. Order your copy now! http://www.borland.com/kylix/
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