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jorge novoa wrote:

> i read that there is no support for any ib version prior of 2007 for
> win vista. how its that possible?, 

	That is true, since all other versions of IB predate Vista, and since
Vista has significant new restrictions on what applications can do.

	There is simply no way, barring time travel, for any version of any
app to reliably support OS versions released after the app itself.

> what if i cant install winxp in a new desktop or notebook computer?

	Then you should use IB 2007.

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jorge novoa wrote:

> i cant belive it.

Why not? This is not the first time that Microsoft has tightened
security restrictions on a new release of Windows in a way that caused
problems for old applications. All versions of IB prior to IB2007
shipped long before Vista shipped.

-- 
Bill Todd (TeamB)

"Craig Stuntz [TeamB]" <craig_stuntz@nospam.please [a.k.a. acm.org]> wrote:
>jorge novoa wrote:
>
>> i read that there is no support for any ib version prior of 2007 for
>> win vista. how its that possible?, 
>
>	That is true, since all other versions of IB predate Vista, and since
>Vista has significant new restrictions on what applications can do.
>
>	There is simply no way, barring time travel, for any version of any
>app to reliably support OS versions released after the app itself.
>
>> what if i cant install winxp in a new desktop or notebook computer?
>
>	Then you should use IB 2007.
i can do that, but what about clients, they wouldn't want to spend money upgrading software like ib.

"Bill Todd" <no@no.com> wrote:
>jorge novoa wrote:
>
>> i cant belive it.
>
>Why not? This is not the first time that Microsoft has tightened
>security restrictions on a new release of Windows in a way that caused
>problems for old applications. All versions of IB prior to IB2007
>shipped long before Vista shipped.

thats true, i thought you will need to spy microsoft to know what they are planning to do in the future.

Are you using vista as your main os?

jorge novoa wrote:

> but what about clients, they wouldn't want to spend money upgrading
> software like ib.

What choice do they have? Microsoft is about to discontinue selling XP
so when your clients have to replace PCs they will get PCs running
Vista. Like it or not, Vista will require changes in software and will
require that some things be done differently.

-- 
Bill Todd (TeamB)

jorge novoa wrote:

> Are you using vista as your main os?

No, I am not. Normally I only upgrade Windows when I buy a new computer
and that will not happen for awhile.

-- 
Bill Todd (TeamB)

jorge novoa wrote:

> i can do that, but what about clients, they wouldn't want to spend
> money upgrading software like ib.

	If they don't want to upgrade software (and I'm *not* talking about IB
in particular) then they /should/ /not/ /buy/ Vista.

	If you buy Vista, you /will/ be upgrading software. And it won't be
all or even mostly free upgrades.

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jorge novoa wrote:

> What os are you using for your personal develops?

	We use XP Pro. Works fine. We test on Vista, but that's the only thing
we do with it. As for servers, I like Windows Server 2003. Vista is not
a server OS, nor will it ever be; MS's next server OS will be Server
2008.

-- 
Craig Stuntz [TeamB] � Vertex Systems Corp. � Columbus, OH
  Delphi/InterBase Weblog : http://blogs.teamb.com/craigstuntz
IB 6 versions prior to 6.0.1.6 are pre-release and may corrupt 
  your DBs!  Open Edition users, get 6.0.1.6 from http://mers.com

jorge novoa wrote:

> oh, and how are you testing ib or another sw to resolve our doubts.
> What os are you using for your personal develops?, what do you
> recomend: upgrade to vista or better migrate to linux

If you do not like the restrictions imposed by User Access Control in
Vista then disable it. The number of programs that will not run on
Vista with UAC enabled is huge because many programs store INI files,
configuration files or other files that must be updated in the
installation directory which is normally a directory under Program
Files.

Microsoft has given you two choices. Pick the one you prefer and move
forward.

1) Disable UAC and get the same behavior you have with XP.

2) Upgrade your software so it works with UAC.

-- 
Bill Todd (TeamB)

"Bill Todd" <no@no.com> wrote:
>jorge novoa wrote:
>
>> oh, and how are you testing ib or another sw to resolve our doubts.
>> What os are you using for your personal develops?, what do you
>> recomend: upgrade to vista or better migrate to linux
>
>If you do not like the restrictions imposed by User Access Control in
>Vista then disable it. The number of programs that will not run on
>Vista with UAC enabled is huge because many programs store INI files,
>configuration files or other files that must be updated in the
>installation directory which is normally a directory under Program
>Files.
>
>Microsoft has given you two choices. Pick the one you prefer and move
>forward.
>
>1) Disable UAC and get the same behavior you have with XP.
>
>2) Upgrade your software so it works with UAC.
>
>-- 
>Bill Todd (TeamB)

Thank you for the answers it helps a lot. the wierd thing its that i installed ib6 and it works fine, ja, but i ib 7.1 or 7.5 doesn't works.

i'm not clinging to use vista(even i dont like it), its just that i had to buy a new notebook comp because i had to sent my last one laptop to fix it, and i cant stay without my work tool. well the thing was that when i tryied to install win xp on the new one, the installer told me that it can't found any hd installed on the computer. so i didn't want to upgrade bios and do another stuffs to achieve the winxp installation right, because i can run the risk to loose the laptops warranty.