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Started by Peter
Mon, 05 Oct 1998 00:00
To use or not to use
Author: Peter
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 00:00
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I am currently looking to use Intrabuilder to develop web applications. I would like to deploy these applications to my ISP's server. From the questions I have seen in this forum, I get the impression that Intrabuilder has a problem if too many users are browsing the application in the sense that it appears to hang the server. Is this the case or am I misunderstanding the point. Thanks
Re: To use or not to use
Author: Ken Mayer [TeamB]
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 00:00
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"Peter" <peter@mpmassociates.co.uk> wrote: >I am currently looking to use Intrabuilder to develop web applications. I >would like to deploy these applications to my ISP's server. The chances are that your ISP will not allow you to hook the IntraBuilder server into their system, assuming that they are using Windows NT as their server in the first place (the IntraBuilder server is NOT Unix enabled and most ISPs use UNIX for their servers). >From the questions I have seen in this forum, I get the impression that >Intrabuilder has a problem if too many users are browsing the application in >the sense that it appears to hang the server. Is this the case or am I >misunderstanding the point. I think it really depends on how the system is setup ... when I worked at Borland on the QA Team we had some tests where we tried to hit the server really hard (we had some software that hit the server 2-3000 hits in a minute, that kind of thing) ... Ken --- Ken Mayer [TeamB] Golden Stag Productions http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/homepage.htm http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/dbase/dbase.htm
Re: To use or not to use
Author: Alan McDonald
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 00:00
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Ah, Ken, This 2-3000 hit test you were doing ..... where 2,980 of them bringing back the "Too many simultaneous users" message? My advice Peter, is write your own web application in Delphi. It's more reliable, faster, and it can be customised a lot easier. In any case, I think the writing is on the wall for Intrabuilder and you'd be doing yourself a big favour not investing any time at this late stage learning it's "nuances". Alan >"Peter" <peter@mpmassociates.co.uk> wrote: > >>I am currently looking to use Intrabuilder to develop web applications. I >>would like to deploy these applications to my ISP's server. > >The chances are that your ISP will not allow you to hook the >IntraBuilder server into their system, assuming that they are using >Windows NT as their server in the first place (the IntraBuilder server >is NOT Unix enabled and most ISPs use UNIX for their servers). > >>From the questions I have seen in this forum, I get the impression that >>Intrabuilder has a problem if too many users are browsing the application in >>the sense that it appears to hang the server. Is this the case or am I >>misunderstanding the point. > >I think it really depends on how the system is setup ... when I worked >at Borland on the QA Team we had some tests where we tried to hit the >server really hard (we had some software that hit the server 2-3000 >hits in a minute, that kind of thing) ... > >Ken >--- >Ken Mayer [TeamB] >Golden Stag Productions >http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/homepage.htm >http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/dbase/dbase.htm > >
Re: To use or not to use
Author: Ken Mayer [TeamB]
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 00:00
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"Alan McDonald" <alan@meta.com.au> wrote: >Ah, Ken, This 2-3000 hit test you were doing ..... where 2,980 of them >bringing back the "Too many simultaneous users" message? No, they weren't. The software was able to hit a lot harder and the server was able to stand up to it. The problem is how the system is setup. As to the rest of your message, who's to say what will happen with IntraBuilder ...? The people who can say are not saying at this time. Ken --- Ken Mayer [TeamB] Golden Stag Productions http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/homepage.htm http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/dbase/dbase.htm
Re: To use or not to use
Author: Alan McDonald
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:00
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Ken, I've just got back from the Inprise Conference. They said categorically that Intrabuilder will not be enhanced and/or re-released. Some of the Intrabuilder functionality will be incorparated into App Server but by that time it will be a very different animal. Alan McDonald Ken Mayer [TeamB] wrote in message <361a492e.3545341@forums.borland.com>... >"Alan McDonald" <alan@meta.com.au> wrote: > >>Ah, Ken, This 2-3000 hit test you were doing ..... where 2,980 of them >>bringing back the "Too many simultaneous users" message? > >No, they weren't. The software was able to hit a lot harder and the >server was able to stand up to it. The problem is how the system is >setup. > >As to the rest of your message, who's to say what will happen with >IntraBuilder ...? The people who can say are not saying at this time. > >Ken > > >--- >Ken Mayer [TeamB] >Golden Stag Productions >http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/homepage.htm >http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/dbase/dbase.htm > >
Re: To use or not to use
Author: Ken Mayer [TeamB]
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:00
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"Alan McDonald" <alan@meta.com.au> wrote: >I've just got back from the Inprise Conference. They said categorically that >Intrabuilder will not be enhanced and/or re-released. Some of the >Intrabuilder functionality will be incorparated into App Server but by that >time it will be a very different animal. If you haven't gotten it yet, there's a letter all registered owners should receive, as well as a copy of the letter at the inprise site on the IntraBuilder product page ... check it out. Ken --- Ken Mayer [TeamB] Golden Stag Productions http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/homepage.htm http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/dbase/dbase.htm
Re: To use or not to use
Author: Alan McDonald
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:00
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Gees, I wish I'd been informed of this before I bought my copy of Delphi C/S.... They keep us in the dark here in Australia it seems. Thanks Ken .... I'm on the phone as I write this Alan Ken Mayer [TeamB] wrote in message <362fc65d.2568653@forums.borland.com>... >"Alan McDonald" <alan@meta.com.au> wrote: > >>I've just got back from the Inprise Conference. They said categorically that >>Intrabuilder will not be enhanced and/or re-released. Some of the >>Intrabuilder functionality will be incorparated into App Server but by that >>time it will be a very different animal. > >If you haven't gotten it yet, there's a letter all registered owners >should receive, as well as a copy of the letter at the inprise site on >the IntraBuilder product page ... check it out. > >Ken >--- >Ken Mayer [TeamB] >Golden Stag Productions >http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/homepage.htm >http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/dbase/dbase.htm > >
Re: To use or not to use
Author: Ken Mayer [TeamB]
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 00:00
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"Alan McDonald" <alan@meta.com.au> wrote: >Gees, I wish I'd been informed of this before I bought my copy of Delphi >C/S.... They keep us in the dark here in Australia it seems. >Thanks Ken .... I'm on the phone as I write this >Alan The Australian office may not have known about this -- the letter was pretty recent ... Ken --- Ken Mayer [TeamB] Golden Stag Productions http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/homepage.htm http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/dbase/dbase.htm
Re: To use or not to use
Author: Alan McDonald
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:00
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They've actually responded to me by saying that Australia will not be making the same offer. I suspect it's because there's not enough of us dummies who bought it here for them to feel obliged enough.... Ken Mayer [TeamB] wrote in message <3631162a.1285617@forums.borland.com>... >"Alan McDonald" <alan@meta.com.au> wrote: > >>Gees, I wish I'd been informed of this before I bought my copy of Delphi >>C/S.... They keep us in the dark here in Australia it seems. >>Thanks Ken .... I'm on the phone as I write this >>Alan > >The Australian office may not have known about this -- the letter was >pretty recent ... > >Ken >--- >Ken Mayer [TeamB] >Golden Stag Productions >http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/homepage.htm >http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/dbase/dbase.htm > >
Re: To use or not to use
Author: Ken Mayer [TeamB]
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:00
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"Alan McDonald" <alan@meta.com.au> wrote: >They've actually responded to me by saying that Australia will not be making >the same offer. I suspect it's because there's not enough of us dummies who >bought it here for them to feel obliged enough.... Sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, at least at the moment, the non-US Inprise branches don't seem to be working on the same wave lengths as the US (home-base) ... it's pretty weird at times. Ken --- Ken Mayer [TeamB] Golden Stag Productions http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/homepage.htm http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/dbase/dbase.htm
Re: To use or not to use
Author: Ken Mayer [TeamB]
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 00:00
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"Alan McDonald" <alan@meta.com.au> wrote: >I've decided to mount an argument with them and found someone who has >offered to bat for me. I'l see what happens. Good luck! <G> Ken --- Ken Mayer [TeamB] Golden Stag Productions http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/homepage.htm http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/dbase/dbase.htm
Re: To use or not to use
Author: Alan McDonald
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 00:00
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I've decided to mount an argument with them and found someone who has offered to bat for me. I'l see what happens. Alan Ken Mayer [TeamB] wrote in message <363862e4.2158700@forums.borland.com>... >"Alan McDonald" <alan@meta.com.au> wrote: > >>They've actually responded to me by saying that Australia will not be making >>the same offer. I suspect it's because there's not enough of us dummies who >>bought it here for them to feel obliged enough.... > >Sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, at least at the moment, the non-US >Inprise branches don't seem to be working on the same wave lengths as >the US (home-base) ... it's pretty weird at times. > >Ken >--- >Ken Mayer [TeamB] >Golden Stag Productions >http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/homepage.htm >http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/dbase/dbase.htm > >
Re: To use or not to use
Author: Ken Mayer [TeamB]
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 00:00
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 00:00
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"Alan McDonald" <alan@meta.com.au> wrote: >Well Ken, they agreed with my suggestion... They're going to honor the US >offer in some way to Intrabuilder owners. So all is forgiven..... I'm going >to give Itnerbase 5 for Linux a go and see how she performs. Great! Interbase is a good product ... Ken --- Ken Mayer [TeamB] Golden Stag Productions http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/homepage.htm http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/dbase/dbase.htm
Re: To use or not to use
Author: Alan McDonald
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 00:00
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 00:00
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Well Ken, they agreed with my suggestion... They're going to honor the US offer in some way to Intrabuilder owners. So all is forgiven..... I'm going to give Itnerbase 5 for Linux a go and see how she performs. Alan >"Alan McDonald" <alan@meta.com.au> wrote: > >>I've decided to mount an argument with them and found someone who has >>offered to bat for me. I'l see what happens. > >Good luck! <G> > >Ken >--- >Ken Mayer [TeamB] >Golden Stag Productions >http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/homepage.htm >http://www.mindspring.com/~hirschv/dbase/dbase.htm > >
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