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Article #15792Re: IE 5 & JDK 1.2
From: Richard Wilkman
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:00
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:00
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Chris: You don't really manage plug-ins. They're installed on the client and fired off when requested. IE has a much better mechanism for installing then Netscape. Netscape usually just takes you to the web page for the company that has the plug-in. You are on your own from there. This shouldn't be confused with The Plugin (which is the Java Plugin around these parts). But yes, once a plugin is installed (at least on WinTel) in one browser it is accessible by the other. -Rich Chris Hill wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:18:34 -0700, Richard Wilkman > <rwilkman@inprise.com> wrote: > > >Actually, it's better to install plugins with IE. They have NS beat > >five ways from Sunday on this front. Netscapes plug in 'install' is > >pathetic! > > Are there any browsers out there that have good plug-in managment? I > haven't used IE 4 much (or 5). I agree that Netscape's installation > technology stinks (and who knows when [if? mozilla...] that situation > will be fixed). In the end, my guess is that MS and Netscape will > avoid trying to perfect Java/plug-in/ActiveX issues and focus on that > latest HTML junk. I think there IS a place for Java applets, > plug-ins, and ActiveX controls. Sadly, the major players make it so > difficult (for users and developers) to manage these beasts that there > will be a step backwards to HTML "user interfaces" for web > "applications". > > One feature that I think is a requirement for good plug-in support is > the ability to easily UNinstall plug-ins without leaving a trace. I > especially hate complex plug-ins that require an install program > (don't get me started on InstallShield!). The browser should act as > an installation manager (a good one). The plug-in would provide a > file with its installation requirements (no executable installation > "code"). The browser would download and install according to the > requirements (with configurable constraints imposed by the user). Then > comes the magic part. When users want to configure or remove a > plug-in, they can go to the list of installed components and do it. > AFAIK, this hasn't been done in any browser. Since I am dreaming up a > perfect world here, plug-ins wouldn't break other plug-ins when they > are installed. Actually all of this also applies to Java code as well > (certain installation problems are much simpler in the context of > Java). Sort of like DSJ. > > With better component support in browsers, it would be possible to > make more interactive/helpful user interfaces and manipulate data > without a round trip to the server for more HTML. > > Chris Hill > Chris244@aol.com -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Rich Wilkman Senior Quality Assurance Engineer Borland JBuilder Team If you see something that looks like an opinion up there, it's mine and mine alone. Mail sent to me from the newsgroups won't bounce but will be ignored. If I have time, I'll respond, but you have a better chance if you confine your posts to the newsgroups =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f74b3,94580fbda88ab62b X-Google-Attributes: gidf74b3,public From: Richard Wilkman <rwilkman@inprise.com> Subject: Re: IE 5 & JDK 1.2 Date: 1999/04/29 Message-ID: <3728CE43.10E82442@inprise.com> X-Deja-AN: 472449361 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <7g74br$lgq14@forums.borland.com> <372723E5.6CACF23@inprise.com> <3727935C.E6A95357@jetsuite.com> <3728784A.928D34A3@inprise.com> <37287b08.3851850648@forums.borland.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: borland.public.jbuilder.java.language