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Loren Thompson wrote:

>Is there a dev tool that can take a Delphi Pascal project and do this?  
>How about JBuilder?

No.  While it's possible to map raw language from one to the other, the 
libraries are considerably different and mapping VCL to Swing, for 
example, would be a nightmare.

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Loren Thompson wrote:
> Is there a dev tool that can take a Delphi Pascal project and do this?  How 
> about JBuilder? 
> 
> 
In addition to what Kevin said, let me warn you to stay clear of 
Delphi2Java. I do not like knocking products, but I could never get this 
thing to work and it is totally unsupported.

So if you see it on the Web, take heed to the warning!

You are much better off recoding this or trying to use Component Pascal 
to do the conversion and then use the JVM from Component Pascal. Of 
course none of the VCL objects are going to convert.

While it is possible to create mapping libraries from VCL to Java, you 
would find it  much easier task to recode in Java or a JVM supported 
language to begin with.

BTW, Java 6 is going to include a Visual Basic VM runtime. I have no 
idea how feature complete it is or isn't.

One more thing. There is a JNI tool for calling Delphi from Java or visa 
versa. Last time I looked, it was on the Borland Open Tools site.

On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:43:02 -0500, paul nichols [TeamB] wrote:

> BTW, Java 6 is going to include a Visual Basic VM runtime. I have no 
> idea how feature complete it is or isn't.

I was just reading about this.  I find this *truly* disturbing...


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David Orriss, Jr. [TeamB] wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:43:02 -0500, paul nichols [TeamB] wrote:
> 
>> BTW, Java 6 is going to include a Visual Basic VM runtime. I have no 
>> idea how feature complete it is or isn't.
> 
> I was just reading about this.  I find this *truly* disturbing...

Umm, where did you read this? A URL would be appreciated.

Java 6 has a scripting *framework*, and a few popular scripting 
languages (Rhino == javascript, JRuby, BeanShell, etc.) will be 
available for it.

Is that what you're referring to? Or something spun off from "Project 
semplice"?

http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/features.html doesn't list 
anything like this. (Note: many of the links on that page are broken 
because someone added "/"s after filenames like "changes6.html/" - 
you'll have to cut and paste the URLs manually to follow the links).

Shankar Unni wrote:
> David Orriss, Jr. [TeamB] wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:43:02 -0500, paul nichols [TeamB] wrote:
>>
> Umm, where did you read this? A URL would be appreciated.
> 
> Java 6 has a scripting *framework*, and a few popular scripting 
> languages (Rhino == javascript, JRuby, BeanShell, etc.) will be 
> available for it.
> 
Yes!
> Is that what you're referring to? Or something spun off from "Project 
> semplice"?
> 
Yes, this is where it is coming from

http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/05/19/write-java-web-apps-in-visual-basic-or-javascript/

It was announced at Javapolis 2006.

Here is another link:

http://www.javapolis.com/confluence/display/JP06/Project+Semplice

I misstated that it would be a part of the Java 6 platform. It will not, 
of course.

Here is a better informational link that shows VB being developed in the 
NetBeans IDE (ultimately for Java byte code compilation).


http://blogs.sun.com/herbertc/entry/project_semplice_visual_basic_for

paul nichols [TeamB] wrote:
> Shankar Unni wrote:
>> David Orriss, Jr. [TeamB] wrote:
>>> On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:43:02 -0500, paul nichols [TeamB] wrote:
>>>
>> Umm, where did you read this? A URL would be appreciated.
>>
>> Java 6 has a scripting *framework*, and a few popular scripting 
>> languages (Rhino == javascript, JRuby, BeanShell, etc.) will be 
>> available for it.
>>
> Yes!
>> Is that what you're referring to? Or something spun off from "Project 
>> semplice"?
>>
> Yes, this is where it is coming from
> 
> http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/05/19/write-java-web-apps-in-visual-basic-or-javascript/ 
> 
> 
> It was announced at Javapolis 2006.
> 
> Here is another link:
> 
> http://www.javapolis.com/confluence/display/JP06/Project+Semplice
> 
> I misstated that it would be a part of the Java 6 platform. It will not, 
> of course.
> 
> Here is a better informational link that shows VB being developed in the 
> NetBeans IDE (ultimately for Java byte code compilation).
> 
> 
> http://blogs.sun.com/herbertc/entry/project_semplice_visual_basic_for

2 of the 3 developers of Project Semplice no longer work at Sun.  Check 
out Tor Norbye's blog:

http://blogs.sun.com/tor/entry/semplice_update

"In any case, as the blog title suggests, the project is not dead. It 
was a research project, we've learned a lot, and the technology is now 
forming the basis for some great new scripting tools coming your way 
very soon. Rising out of the ashes, so to speak! We'll have more to show 
at JavaPolis in a few weeks, so keep your eyes peeled!"


David

On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 12:18:25 -0800, David C. Browne wrote:

> 2 of the 3 developers of Project Semplice no longer work at Sun.  Check 
> out Tor Norbye's blog:
> 
> http://blogs.sun.com/tor/entry/semplice_update

Interesting.  Thanks for that update.

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paul nichols [TeamB] wrote:

>> Is that what you're referring to? Or something spun off from "Project 
>> semplice"?
>>
> Yes, this is where it is coming from
> http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/05/19/write-java-web-apps-in-visual-basic-or-javascript/ 

Oh, OK. then. Yes, as David C. Browne noted, Semplice is hardly a 
shipped product, and certainly not part of the standard JDK6 
distribution (which is already out, by the way - it was released 
officially this week!).

The only scripting engine that comes with the default distribution is 
Javascript (the Rhino scripting engine from Mozilla). I believe JRuby, 
Jython, BeanShell and Groovy are in the works (the integration into the 
Java 6 scripting framework, I mean), and I'm sure IBM will also be out 
with NetRexx integration at some point (shudder!).

Shankar Unni wrote:
> paul nichols [TeamB] wrote:
> 
>>> Is that what you're referring to? Or something spun off from "Project 
>>> semplice"?
>>>
>> Yes, this is where it is coming from
>> http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/05/19/write-java-web-apps-in-visual-basic-or-javascript/ 
> 
> 
>
> The only scripting engine that comes with the default distribution is 
> Javascript (the Rhino scripting engine from Mozilla). I believe JRuby, 
> Jython, BeanShell and Groovy are in the works (the integration into the 
> Java 6 scripting framework, I mean), and I'm sure IBM will also be out 
> with NetRexx integration at some point (shudder!).

Now that's one I haven't seen in a while, good ole Rexx!!

I have tried Groovy with it (while it was in beta) and that worked 
pretty well.

Paul Nichols [TeamB] wrote:
> Shankar Unni wrote:
>> paul nichols [TeamB] wrote:
>> 
>>>> Is that what you're referring to? Or something spun off from 
>>>> "Project semplice"?
>>>> 
>>> Yes, this is where it is coming from 
>>> http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/05/19/write-java-web-apps-in-visual-basic-or-javascript/
>>> 
>> 
>> The only scripting engine that comes with the default distribution
>> is Javascript (the Rhino scripting engine from Mozilla). I believe
>> JRuby, Jython, BeanShell and Groovy are in the works (the
>> integration into the Java 6 scripting framework, I mean), and I'm
>> sure IBM will also be out with NetRexx integration at some point
>> (shudder!).
> 
> Now that's one I haven't seen in a while, good ole Rexx!!
> 
> I have tried Groovy with it (while it was in beta) and that worked 
> pretty well.
> 

Rexx.  Blast from the past.  My first job out of university was an
application written in Rexx. It was a great scripting language.

I'm more of a Ruby/JRuby fan now.

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Lori M Olson [TeamB] wrote:
> Paul Nichols [TeamB] wrote:
>> Shankar Unni wrote:
>>> paul nichols [TeamB] wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Is that what you're referring to? Or something spun off from 
>>>>> "Project semplice"?
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, this is where it is coming from 
>>>> http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2006/05/19/write-java-web-apps-in-visual-basic-or-javascript/ 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The only scripting engine that comes with the default distribution
>>> is Javascript (the Rhino scripting engine from Mozilla). I believe
>>> JRuby, Jython, BeanShell and Groovy are in the works (the
>>> integration into the Java 6 scripting framework, I mean), and I'm
>>> sure IBM will also be out with NetRexx integration at some point
>>> (shudder!).
>>
>> Now that's one I haven't seen in a while, good ole Rexx!!
>>
>> I have tried Groovy with it (while it was in beta) and that worked 
>> pretty well.
>>
> 
> Rexx.  Blast from the past.  My first job out of university was an
> application written in Rexx. It was a great scripting language.
> 
> I'm more of a Ruby/JRuby fan now.
> 
I used Rexx for some mainframe scripting a long time back. About 10 
years ago now..

These days, most of my scripting language is limited to JavaScript. Have 
tried Groovy to a limited degree.