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Article #10857Re: comparing various swingalls
From: Joe Fessler
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 00:00
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 00:00
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In a word, yes... you were wrong. Sorry to be so sour, but the swing/plugin has been a pain in my ass for quite some time. As far as I can tell, the situation is this: different plugin versions do not cohabitate well and there is only long range evaluation efforts on Sun's radar screen - this includes plugin support for multiple JDK's on the same machine. Next; the version of swing in jdk 1.2 seems to have much less capability and more bugs than the _beta_ versions of 1.1.x - particularly re: html components. So if you want decent swing functionality, use 1.1.1, which seems to require JDK 1.1.7 or better, but NOT JDK 1.2. That means you'll need plugin 1.1.x plus having to deploy (maybe manually) a swingall.jar to replace the one that comes with the plugin. Of course, if the user already has plugin 1.2, then they will have to uninstall it first and then install 1.1.x. I hate to say it (and, _please_!!!!!, if someone has a solution to these problems, let the rest of us in on it), Java as a GUI client is breathing it's last. The conspiracy theorist in me says that Sun is purposely making swing and client deployed apps/applets more difficult to build, since software on the client does not necessarily require server hardware - their bread and butter. No, this is not intended as flame bait. --- Regards, -Joe Alex B. Humphreys wrote: > I've set my Jbuilder (2.01) to run using the jdk and swingall that come > with the Java Plug-In (so that when I deploy it is should be smooth > sailing). But when I deploy it, I need to include a DIFFERENT swingall > (which is older) in the classpath or else I get a NoClassDefFound on > JApplet or Metal LookandFeel. How can I compile my program so it > includes the necessary swing classes and can run with the installed Java > Plug-In swingall (rather than making people download a 2Mg swingall)? > > I'm aware that swing isn't the best solution on the web, but I had hoped > that the java plug-in would help to remedy the situation. Was I wrong? > > Thanks > Alex
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 111d45,57f9e143274dfab X-Google-Attributes: gid111d45,public From: Joe Fessler <jfessler@idir.net> Subject: Re: comparing various swingalls Date: 1999/08/09 Message-ID: <37AF38C6.80D44FCD@idir.net> X-Deja-AN: 510778764 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <37A9D848.2283A313@sema4.com> To: "Alex B. Humphreys" <ahumphreys@sema4.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: borland.public.jbuilder.java.swing